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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:28 pm 
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Talking about Tesco they have refused to have ranks at any of there stores, so why should we pick up there there should be a mass boycott the punters will soon learn that if the want a cab they will have to go El's wear, I know that either there customer services phone for punters or there is a free phone or call box, but the d ickhead who runs tesco should put ranks in, or tell him yourself terry.leahy@tesco.com


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Yes, like our friend Mr TescoTaxiTroll they like a good monopoly.

Every little helps! :D

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Yes, very good T., but the problem with the vast majority of what you write is that you ignore the difference between a business and a cartel.

I don't begrudge businesses making a return, but cartels are a different matter.


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There is nothing wrong with Cartels, only Cartels that are against the public interest. Cartels can bring stability, OPEC for example, the West was very happy to establish that Cartel, it meant continuity of supply at broadly predictable prices. Unions, Associatiation etc are all forms of Cartel, how would industry cope without unions, yes conflicts occur and we have strikes but overall the bosses would rather have unions than not.


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I don't quite get this comparison with Tesco.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I can make out the backlash against Tesco seems to be because of its dominant position in the market tending towards monopoly. And in particular its detrimental impact on smaller businesses.

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Again you missed the point, the public backlass against Tesco's is about market domination, my point was the planning aspect, they lost not because of any monopoly situation it was because the planning ruled the area was adaquatley serviced another supermarket would have been detrimental, an oversupply. The planners believed that market forces alone could not have worked to the benefit of the community. Unfortunately success in this country tends to provoke envy and resentment and Tescos is the most success retailer of the past 30 years.


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T. wrote:
There is nothing wrong with Cartels.

What apart from them being illegal? :lol: :lol:

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There are a few (Cartels) in South America that are a bit iffy too :lol:


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Sussex wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with Cartels.

What apart from them being illegal? :lol: :lol:


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produce the relevent law then Amish Boy. Cartels are not illegal.


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There are a few (Cartels) in South America that are a bit iffy too :lol:



Replies like this really get up my nose !!!!!!!!!
I tried sniffin coke once, dont the bubbles tickle.


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T. wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with Cartels.

What apart from them being illegal? :lol: :lol:


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produce the relevent law then Amish Boy. Cartels are not illegal.


Haven't you heard of the Competition Act 1998, Mr TescoTaxiTroll?

Or Articles 81 and 82 of the Treaty of Rome?

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T. wrote:
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I don't quite get this comparison with Tesco.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I can make out the backlash against Tesco seems to be because of its dominant position in the market tending towards monopoly. And in particular its detrimental impact on smaller businesses.

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Again you missed the point, the public backlass against Tesco's is about market domination, my point was the planning aspect, they lost not because of any monopoly situation it was because the planning ruled the area was adaquatley serviced another supermarket would have been detrimental, an oversupply. The planners believed that market forces alone could not have worked to the benefit of the community. Unfortunately success in this country tends to provoke envy and resentment and Tescos is the most success retailer of the past 30 years.


As usual you've lost me here - you seem to be merely repeating what I said.

And what I also said was that the public backlash against Tesco was about their market dominance and to that extent if you want to use this backlash to argue your case for a taxi cartel then you're in fact undermining your case.

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What about the individual owner driver .............. do you really think its right for them to be included within the "collective monopoly" when they are more like individual drivers.



Well if they're given preferential treatment as compared to other drivers then why not?



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Again you generalise because your argument doesn't stand up if it were specific ................ look at the situation in Edinburgh, drivers waiting to get a free plate with seemingly the only intention of selling it for £50,000 plus .................... a situation which you applaud.



More misrepresentation - where on earth does that one come from?

But I'll be charitable and attribute this to your cluelessness rather than a bare faced lie :D

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T. wrote:
There is nothing wrong with Cartels, only Cartels that are against the public interest. Cartels can bring stability, OPEC for example, the West was very happy to establish that Cartel, it meant continuity of supply at broadly predictable prices. Unions, Associatiation etc are all forms of Cartel, how would industry cope without unions, yes conflicts occur and we have strikes but overall the bosses would rather have unions than not.


Good grief man, didn't oil price shocks cause two world recessions under OPEC's watch?

The price of oil was fairly stable before OPEC.

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TDO wrote:
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T. wrote:
There is nothing wrong with Cartels.

What apart from them being illegal? :lol: :lol:


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produce the relevent law then Amish Boy. Cartels are not illegal.


Haven't you heard of the Competition Act 1998, Mr TescoTaxiTroll?

Or Articles 81 and 82 of the Treaty of Rome?


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These acts do not ban cartels or make them illegal. Only Cartels proved to be anti-competetion or against the public interest are unlawful. The EU is a cartel. Again Amish Boy you try to distort the truth to fit your own ends.


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And what I also said was that the public backlash against Tesco was about their market dominance and to that extent if you want to use this backlash to argue your case for a taxi cartel then you're in fact undermining your case.[/quote]

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The backlash against Tesco and their market dominance had nothing to do with their failure to get planning approval. The planners refuse because another supermarket in that area would have had a negetive effect on the community. Are you being deliberatly obtuse or are you so blinded by you obsession to get a free plate that you fail to grasp the simplest retort to your ranting.


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T. wrote:
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T. wrote:
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T. wrote:
There is nothing wrong with Cartels.

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These acts do not ban cartels or make them illegal. Only Cartels proved to be anti-competetion or against the public interest are unlawful. The EU is a cartel. Again Amish Boy you try to distort the truth to fit your own ends.
What about the Liverpool plate cartel .
Taxi work has dryed up during the day . Loads of extra night buses. Private hire cars are flooding the streets .
Does the price of a Liverpool Taxi plate come down . No it goes up 58,000. Why because the members of the cartel decide when to sell plates and at what price . Who suffers the public and drivers . instead of a owner driver buying a newish cab, he makes do with a shed. He has to . If you ever go to Liverpool airport, Look at the state of the cabs. You tell me Quantity controls are a good thing (my arse) . Your the Amish boy .Streetcars


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