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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:37 pm 
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And the fewer cab drivers there are driving Liverpool cabs, means that when the next SUD survey happens they might find some. :shock:
I bet you my sefton plated mondeo , against a penny , will they fuuuuk find any S U D in Liverpool. :D :D :D :D :D :D All the best Streetcars.


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You always go on about plate Barons, and what they will lose, and that is the bit that makes you look stupid, when will you get it into your thick head that they have all ready made their money, they have banked it long ago , put it into houses and flats and things like that, the plates that are on the road now cost them peanuts, you will never understand as long as you have a whole in your a**... :shock:


So as a bit of a baron yourself this begs the question: why do you get your knickers in such a knot about derestriction?

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That's how you can tell the really greedy people, you are only interested in yourself,


Spoken like a true multi-owner who won't allow others to run their own vehicle :lol:


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you would never buy a WAV, you would want a saloon because that's best for you, we got your number


So how many run a WAV if they can run a saloon?

Are you saying you could run saloons on your Sefton plates if you want?

How many saloon plate in Brighton run WAVs, for example?

Can't see many myself.

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That's how you can tell the really greedy people, you are only interested in yourself,


Spoken like a true multi-owner who won't allow others to run their own vehicle :lol:


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you would never buy a WAV, you would want a saloon because that's best for you, we got your number


So how many run a WAV if they can run a saloon?

Are you saying you could run saloons on your Sefton plates if you want?

How many saloon plate in Brighton run WAVs, for example?

Can't see many myself.


I don't stop anybody from running their own Taxi, I just have no time for lazy little gets who want something for nothing, they can do what I did and the other owner drivers in Sefton did work hard save the pennies and take a chance, I have no time for squatters....

yes, I can put either a saloon car or a wav onto a Sefton plate, I have a feeling that unlike yourself we in Sefton cater for our customers' needs.

I get a strong feeling for that you are trying to make the the job worthless, which in the end will make you worthless, that is not my intention.

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I don't stop anybody from running their own Taxi, I just have no time for lazy little gets who want something for nothing.

What like Mr GA, Mr GBC, 72% of the country's taxi fleet and 100% of the country's PH fleet? [-(

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Sussex wrote:
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I don't stop anybody from running their own Taxi, I just have no time for lazy little gets who want something for nothing.

What like Mr GA, Mr GBC, 72% of the country's taxi fleet and 100% of the country's PH fleet? [-(



It is always stupid to bring a London hackney driver into this argument, he takes three-and a-half years to qualify, that is a big commitment he has to pay his own way, he does not get something for nothing, he works hard to pay for them three and a half years, don't ever class a London cab driver in the same category.

And don't think of yourself as a taxi-driver because you're not, your a private hire driver you live in different world , its green, full of envy, and lots of wannabes, and squatters.

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It is always stupid to bring a London hackney driver into this argument, he takes three-and a-half years to qualify, that is a big commitment he has to pay his own way, he does not get something for nothing, he works hard to pay for them three and a half years, don't ever class a London cab driver in the same category.

I'm more than happy to boot out Mr GBC, now what about the other 250,000? :?

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And don't think of yourself as a taxi-driver because you're not, your a private hire driver you live in different world , its green, full of envy, and lots of wannabes, and squatters.

I've never thought of myself as a hackney carriage driver, and TBH I doubt I ever will. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
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It is always stupid to bring a London hackney driver into this argument, he takes three-and a-half years to qualify, that is a big commitment he has to pay his own way, he does not get something for nothing, he works hard to pay for them three and a half years, don't ever class a London cab driver in the same category.

I'm more than happy to boot out Mr GBC, now what about the other 250,000? :?


They seem to be happy, you're the bad apple :mrgreen:

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Delta chiefs were furious with the article. We have already written a complaint to the news editor...

Originally their reporter appoached us to ask about our new building with regards to the regeneration of Bootle. Earlier the same day we had given a presentation to the South Sefton Business Forum and were thanked and congratulated by the chairman for building our new home in an area that is crying out for investors. We thought this would be a perfect opportunity to showcase our example of local investment so as to try and attract other investors to the same area.

We sent the reporter a press release explaining why we needed a new control centre, why we chose Bootle, what was the building going to be used for, what was the extraordinary design going to be like, information about the architect (from the Wirral), the Engineers (from Liverpool), the Mechanical and Electrical consultants (from Birkenhead), the telecoms specialists from Penny Lane, and the fact the the tendering process was side-stepped in order to award the entire building contract direct to a construction company that has been based in Bootle since 1978.

After so much negative press about companies moving AWAY from their traditional roots, call centres in particular outsourcing their labour to foreign countries, we thought our local paper would relish the opportunity to highlight a local business staying put and utilising local resources to replace a local run-down eyesore with a stunning world-class control centre. Instead... 'DELTA BID TO TAKE ON THE CABS'

After all the terrible press the Liverpool Hacks have had to sustain from the Echo recently you would have thought the paper would have exercised a little more common sense than throwing down the gauntlett like that. The facts and figures quoted in the piece may have been technically correct but the spin applied seemed to have its own agenda, one that could only incite bad feeling and aggravation between the commercially opposed sectors. They hijacked a positive regeneration story to oversensationalise a cross-border dispute. They should be ashamed of themselves. The industry can do without antagonism from Sun-style tabloid garbage. We apologise unreservedly to the local hackney trade for any threat or challenge their reporter may have implied. We just wanted other industries to look upon Bootle as a wonderful untapped local resource.

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Delta chiefs were furious with the article. We have already written a complaint to the news editor...

Originally their reporter appoached us to ask about our new building with regards to the regeneration of Bootle. Earlier the same day we had given a presentation to the South Sefton Business Forum and were thanked and congratulated by the chairman for building our new home in an area that is crying out for investors. We thought this would be a perfect opportunity to showcase our example of local investment so as to try and attract other investors to the same area.

We sent the reporter a press release explaining why we needed a new control centre, why we chose Bootle, what was the building going to be used for, what was the extraordinary design going to be like, information about the architect (from the Wirral), the Engineers (from Liverpool), the Mechanical and Electrical consultants (from Birkenhead), the telecoms specialists from Penny Lane, and the fact the the tendering process was side-stepped in order to award the entire building contract direct to a construction company that has been based in Bootle since 1978.

After so much negative press about companies moving AWAY from their tr

I don’t know if you have been following, some of the post on here . I for one have, have been guilty, of sensationalising. This particular new s item.
Well you have to admit, it was to say the least , provocative . The echo has been taken to task . By non other, than JD, for its blatant, twisting, of the truth, about the taxi trade, in Liverpool.
You must admit your call centre, your company, is going to be, increasing competition, for the Liverpool hackney trade. How they respond to that, is there business. You are acting quite legally, within the Law . I think most of the people on here, wish you well , after all who wins , the poor, public of Liverpool, your staff, your drivers, your builders and the people of Bootle and you . something to be proud of , if you ask me . You have nothing, to say sorry to the hackney trade in Liverpool for . :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D regards streetcars


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Bootle is in the middle of massive redevelopment millions, millions of Pounds are being spent there, I think somebody is try to pull the wool over somebody's eyes. :oops:

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After all the terrible press the Liverpool Hacks have had to sustain from the Echo recently you would have thought the paper would have exercised a little more common sense than throwing down the gauntlett like that. The facts and figures quoted in the piece may have been technically correct but the spin applied seemed to have its own agenda, one that could only incite bad feeling and aggravation between the commercially opposed sectors. They hijacked a positive regeneration story to oversensationalise a cross-border dispute. They should be ashamed of themselves. The industry can do without antagonism from Sun-style tabloid garbage. We apologise unreservedly to the local hackney trade for any threat or challenge their reporter may have implied. We just wanted other industries to look upon Bootle as a wonderful untapped local resource.


Hold on Mr Delta, you're not trying to say that you're not taking on the Liverpool cab trade?

I can't really see too much wrong with the story, and isn't it the case that you're trying to spin things to make it look like the Liverpool cab trade aren't that bothered with Delta's expansion when anyone in the trade should know that this isn't the case and even from hundreds of miles away most of us can work that out.

To me the article highlights the postcode lottery as regards LA trade regulation, and also the nonsense of the current legislation which allows drivers to badge up in one area with lax regulation and then go to work in another. And clearly the context here is the Echo highlighting the often poor service provided by the black cab trade - indeed, I would go as far as to say that the article is pro-Delta, but of course the article contains quotes from the Liverpool cab trade in the interests of balance.

I don't for a minute blame you for taking advantage of the deficiencies and loopholes in the legislation, but on the other hand it seems to me that you want the press to report what Delta wants rather than allowing a free press to decide what's reported.

From the perspective of trade regulation I think the Echo should be congratulated for highlighting these issues. =D>

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yes, I can put either a saloon car or a wav onto a Sefton plate, I have a feeling that unlike yourself we in Sefton cater for our customers' needs.


So you must be the exception rather than the rule?

There are people from Brighton, Gateshead and Dundee posting on here just now, and all have a mixture of saloons and WAVs, and I'll bet my bottom dollar that the vast majority of those who can run a saloon if the want do in fact do so.

So would people who work in these areas care to comment?


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I get a strong feeling for that you are trying to make the the job worthless, which in the end will make you worthless, that is not my intention.


Quite the reverse, but you prefer the job to be dependent on the plate, whereas I want it dependent on the badge, and a badge that's earned rather than handed out willy nilly.

Let's face it, while the plate may be worth something in restricted areas, in many of these areas the job's worthless, because the owners prefer a string of drivers in their taxis rather than trying to make the badge worth something. :sad:

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Bootle is in the middle of massive redevelopment millions, millions of Pounds are being spent there, I think somebody is try to pull the wool over somebody's eyes. :oops:


Redevelopment doesn't just appear overnight my friend. South Sefton has seven wards classed within the 10% most deprived in the country. Various partnerships of public, business, community and voluntary sectors have been formed in order to meet the many challenges associated with neighbourhood regeneration, creating safer communities, jobs and prosperity, improving health and well-being, environmental sustainability and housing etc. Hundreds of people have invested their time and expertise on thematic groups to secure funding and develop long term strategies. Together with the South Sefton partnership and Sefton Council for example the South Sefton Business Forum helped bring a £20-million package of Government Single Regeneration funding to the area. There was a presentation at their forum only last week outlining just how much we still have left to do. Yes, Bootle is benefiting from huge amounts of investment but we cannot afford to be complacent.

Delta are not a Crosby or a Bootle firm, we are a Merseyside firm. What if Delta had actually bought a site in Liverpool? There would obviously be re-badging and re-plating complications but that wouldn't be insurmountable. Most Delta drivers would want to stay with their Delta customers and if that meant a re-badge and a re-plate then so be it. Consider also the many thousands of existing city badged and plated hackney and private hire drivers and cars that could make a simple transition to the new city-licensed Delta.

Then there is the annual fee for a badge and a plate. Liverpool badges are about £8 cheaper and Liverpool plates are about £22 cheaper than Sefton. That's a potential collective saving of £35,000 a year if our drivers' badges and plates were red instead of blue. Consider also the funding. Sefton were unable to offer any funding towards Delta's new building but Liverpool certainly were. Suddenly the possibility of a city-licensed Delta doesn't sound so outlandish after all so I do not overstate the sigh of relief uttered by local councillors, licensing staff and colleagues at the local chamber of commerce, business forums and economic forums when we announced our plans to remain in Sefton.

Of course being based in Liverpool would have one snag... Sefton Hackney drivers would start moaning 'IF YOU WANT TO WORK SEFTON WHY DON'T YOU MOVE TO SEFTON INSTEAD OF CUTTING ACROSS THE BORDER TO STEAL OUR WORK' :lol:

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