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Reply from T.
Pre-booked jobs should be quoted a price at the time of booking, if the job is metered its a TAXI job, that why its called a TAXIMETER.
That is a total red herring, all these things, roof sign etc are there to confuse and induce the public into thinking the vehicle is for hire.
Most of this does NOT happen in practice, we all know it.
I am not stressed about it, I was making a point. Concerns can be expressed without ranting and hysteria, its just rare on this site of wannabees.
All these things just make life easier for the touts and unlicensed cowboys to steal from us.

So drivers of PH aren't allowed waiting time?

And what happens if the customer gives the wrong destination, or changes their mind, or wants to go on further?

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And having un-marked vehicles doesn't make that easier then?

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Reply from T.
Pre-booked jobs should be quoted a price at the time of booking, if the job is metered its a TAXI job, that why its called a TAXIMETER.

There is NO legislation that requires prices to be quoted at the time of booking, as I said before the meter is how a fare is worked out for a Private Hire customer who has pre-booked ( in the same way a meter is how the fare is worked out for a Public Hire customer who has not pre-booked )

That is a total red herring, all these things, roof sign etc are there to confuse and induce the public into thinking the vehicle is for hire.

Explain to me how a 16 year old girl returning from her school leaving prom with scores of others is supposed to pick out her properly pre-booked PHV from the mass of Mum & Dad cars waiting for their childrens return at 1230 at night UNLESS THE PHV HAS GOT A ROOF SIGN
This genuinely happened to me before our local council got wise and had PHVs use unilluminated roof signs. The girl couldn't find me and I didn't know her. I don't know how she got home

Most of this does NOT happen in practice, we all know it.

Most of what doesn't happen? A contract exists because a person made a booking, PHV Operators are required by law to keep records of Name, Pick-up point, and Destination and with computer systems in common use they record the time of the booking as well as the operator taking a time for the required pick-up. Council officers do check these records and any company failing to keep them would soon find themselves in troublel

I am not stressed about it, I was making a point. Concerns can be expressed without ranting and hysteria, its just rare on this site of wannabees.
All these things just make life easier for the touts and unlicensed cowboys to steal from us

NO Sir all these things ensure a regulated and professional PHV industry which satisfies customer needs.

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NO Sir all these things ensure a regulated and professional PHV industry which satisfies customer needs.[/quote]

Reply from T.
Which planet do you work on, the roof signs etc are there so drivers can "nick" work off the street, if illegal touts and unlicensed vehicles get away with it so easily, its 10 times easier with a PH. You may convince those outside the trade but those who work on the street see it happen day in day out. I doubt a PH would servive it he only did legitamate work. All that rubbish about young girls at the prom, please, why arn't you waiting at the enterance with a board with her name on like at airport arrivals, that works pretty well, no roof signs there ! Dont tell me you are all boy scouts, it won't work, you are fooling no-one.

Reply from T.
Which planet do you work on, the roof signs etc are there so drivers can "nick" work off the street, if illegal touts and unlicensed vehicles get away with it so easily, its 10 times easier with a PH. You may convince those outside the trade but those who work on the street see it happen day in day out. I doubt a PH would servive it he only did legitamate work. All that rubbish about young girls at the prom, please, why arn't you waiting at the enterance with a board with her name on like at airport arrivals, that works pretty well, no roof signs there ! Dont tell me you are all boy scouts, it won't work, you are fooling no-one.[/quote]

I don't know what it is like in your neck of the woods but we have a proper professional setup here in Crawley.
I and 90% of my colleagues will tell anyone who approaches us that they must phone the office first before we can take them. It's really simple , I'm not going to lose my license over a £5.0 fare. If things are different down your way then get on to your local council to take action against the blaggers. I assure you that the "story" about the girl retuning from her prom is absolutely true. You can choose to believe it or not , I don't care, but the situation I describe is typical of the reason why PHVs should be properly signed.

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It must be a Sussex thing, and all the iffy mushes must be up north.

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You choose to ignore my comment about hold up signs then.

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You choose to ignore my comment about hold up signs then.[/quote]

YES

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You choose to ignore my comment about hold up signs then.[/quote]

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Reply from T.
I thought you might, it blows your argument to pieces, you have nothing to counter it. At every level the PH argument fails.
Why is it the even a sustainable release of plates is opposed by the PH advocates, why has it got to be all or nothing ? Is the real agenda the destruction of the trade ?

I have no idea how your " logic" works. I'm trying to put sensible rebuttals to points you have made but why my rejection of a sign, such as we all hold up at airports from time to time, should produce such an illogical response I am at a loss to understand.
As I've said in previous posts I don't disagree that a controlled expansion of hackney plates would probably have been the ideal and correct path but because of self interest and intransigence in the past it is not the situation that applies. This is NOT the fault of the current professional Private Hire Trade, but very much the fault of yesterdays Hackney trade. So why are you having such a "go " at the Private Hire Trade? If your local Private Hires are not playing the game then complain to your Licensing Section.

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Reply from T.
My point was that a simple hold up sign does the job better and does not attract illegal hires. Such a system would make it far more difficult for the unlicensed touts to operate. The only genuinely professional PH is one whose vehicle does not display any outward indication that it is a Taxi or offering a similar service. There are companies in this area like that, they use luxuary saloons and offer a top class service, we don't see them hanging round the night clubs, or near the taxi ranks, they don't use taximeters either. Councils lack the funds and the inclination to persue any but the very blatent PH's that abuse their license.
You cannot blame the hackney trade entirely for the current state of licensing. When sites like this scream for the wholesale Dereg/Delimit of the Taxi trade the trade will fight back. If sustainable expansion was proposed then discussion could have produced a compromise. But there are so many like "sussex" that are totally dogmatic to the point of destruction that progress is impossible. He still rants on and on even though we all realise the damage Dereg/Delimit is doing to the trade. The tide has turned, public and political opinion has changed and in the long term the likes of sussex, JD, etc have done more harm than good in the attempt to find a balance and a positive policy for PH and Taxis.

Good Night.

And the rapists wouldn't be able to do like-wise?

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Reply from T.
That statement is so moronic. How would any rapist know the pick-ups name ? No far easier for them to lure people to the vehicle away from the building etc. Again you are trading on peoples fears which makes you as sick as the people who carry out such crimes. You are not fit to be any part of this trade and should only have restricted supervised access to the public.