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It would appear that the Maud judgement is being challenged in another place and/or doesn't apply in the Carlisle situation.

I beg to differ. :-$


Is it really? lol

Are you suggesting ignorance of the law isn't the sole domain of Councillors?

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Are you suggesting ignorance of the law isn't the sole domain of Councillors?

I'm saying that councillors do not know best. Fact. :shock:

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Are you suggesting ignorance of the law isn't the sole domain of Councillors?

I'm saying that councillors do not know best. Fact. :shock:


But isn't there a body of opinion that says "they do" know best? lol

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JD wrote:
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JD wrote:
Are you suggesting ignorance of the law isn't the sole domain of Councillors?

I'm saying that councillors do not know best. Fact. :shock:


But isn't there a body of opinion that says "they do" know best? lol

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Yes they are called the government :roll:

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But isn't there a body of opinion that says "they do" know best? lol


Yes they are called the government :roll:

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Selective thinking again. One assumes you are referring to the Government response to the OFT report which was specific to removing numbers. However it would seem you can't even get that right because the Government didn't say councils know best it was the representations made by others which promted the Government to state they were giving councils the "opportunity" to asses their own needs.

It is people like you who make a habit of suggesting councillors know best.

Just so you will get it right in future here is what the Government actually said.

4 The Government agrees that consumers should enjoy the benefits of competition in the taxi market and considers that it is detrimental to those seeking entry to a market if it is restricted. The Government is therefore strongly encouraging all those local authorities who still maintain quantity restrictions to remove restrictions as soon as possible. Restrictions should only be retained if there is a strong justification that removal of the restrictions would lead to significant consumer detriment as a result of local conditions.

5 However, the Government received a significant number of representations expressing the view that ultimately local authorities remain best placed to determine local transport needs and to make the decisions about them in the light of local circumstances.

The Government believes that local authorities should be given the "opportunity" to assess their own needs, in the light of the OFT findings, rather than moving to a legislative solution at this time.


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GA wrote:
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Sussex wrote:
JD wrote:
Are you suggesting ignorance of the law isn't the sole domain of Councillors?

I'm saying that councillors do not know best. Fact. :shock:


But isn't there a body of opinion that says "they do" know best? lol

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Yes they are called the government :roll: GA are you employed by the government or do you have future plans to become an MP :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Just ballsed that last post up.Anyway you know what i mean :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I wish I was Badger mate.

The thing is some on here want to take away the power from the beaurocrats in the council and place it in the hands of beaurocrats in another oranisation.

A little bit like a Regional Assembly ................. and you know what happened to that idea up here in Gods Country.

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NOT TOMORROW ....... BUT THE NEXT DAY ........ 10:30 - 18:30 ........

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Sussex I will give your regards to Terry, and for the right price anything else, but remember I am not cheap . :P

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Sussex I will give your regards to Terry, and for the right price anything else, but remember I am not cheap . :P

I just find it amusing that elements of the working class have now sold out to the plate-barons. [-(

I hope you have a wonderful future together. :D

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The appeal against the refusal to allow saloon cars on the court square cab rank in Carlisle takes place at Carlisle magistrates court tomorrow at 2pm.

It is my understanding that the appellant is not legally represented which could be a hindrance? He obviously has confidence in his own ability to conduct his own case otherwise he wouldn't have gone this far. The problem he might face is in the possible lack of competence of the Magistrates. We shall have to wait and see what happens in that respect.

Will the council appeal if they lose? I doubt it. Will the appellant appeal if he loses? He would be a fool not too.

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The appeal against the refusal to allow saloon cars on the court square cab rank in Carlisle takes place at Carlisle magistrates court tomorrow at 2pm.

It is my understanding that the appellant is not legally represented which could be a hindrance? He obviously has confidence in his own ability to conduct his own case otherwise he wouldn't have gone this far. The problem he might face is in the possible lack of competence of the Magistrates. We shall have to wait and see what happens in that respect.

Will the council appeal if they lose? I doubt it. Will the appellant appeal if he loses? He would be a fool not too.

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The minutes of the committee meeting won't be out until next wednesday but I can confirm that after a very lenghty committee meeting councillors decided to maintain the present illegal condition. The News and Star are reporting the story so we shall have to wait and see what they say about the matter.

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How sad, after all your efforts as well .................... maybe the legality of the condition is not as clear cut as the self professed legal expert has lead us to believe .................. maybe his advise is not as accurate as he would have us believe ................... beware of this man, if it goes tit$ up he cannot be held accountable as he doesn't exist.

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I think we can now put Mr Gateshead Angels post in the perspective it deserves. Mr Angel talks about advice, I think anyone visiting TDO has a clear picture of who to trust when it comes to advice and I would be very surprised if it is the man from Gateshead.

Perhaps Mr Angel should scrutinise those around him from whom he obtains his advice? He might then come to terms with his own failings and perhaps gain a little understanding of the separation between law and the illegal decisions of local councillors.

I feel vindicated that my reasoning was correct and the reasoning of Carlisle Councillors was blatantly prejudicial and misguided.

However, in the end they got the message and likewise the local Taxi association and the end product is all that matters.

We can now add Carlisle to the list of councils who have come unstuck by making illegal decisions that are detrimental to taxi drivers. Taxi drivers in other areas that have an issue with illegal licensing conditions should take note of what can be achieved if you have the right determination.

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