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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:12 pm 
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Your Council were hoodwinked into allowing you to have signage in the first place !

The courts told them too. :D

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That's common sense a thing extremely lacking on this site and in your posts in particular.

But are you tempted to pick up off the streets when you are not in your manor?

If not, then why should I be tempted? :?

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To a certain extent the mess is of our own doing. PH are a suppliment to the Taxi trade, without the Taxis there would be no PH, if PH were banned from advertising alongside Taxis many would go out of business.

There are at least two areas that have no hackneys, but none that I know off that have no PH. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
T. wrote:
That's common sense a thing extremely lacking on this site and in your posts in particular.

But are you tempted to pick up off the streets when you are not in your manor?

If not, then why should I be tempted? :?


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Every taxi driver sees PH cars picking up from the streets all the time its a frequent occurance, few bother to report it because of the time lost and paperwork involved. Seeing it and proving it are very different things. Most circuits are mixed and so there is pressure from the circuit operators not to report PH illegal pick-ups and its very easy to invent a booking to cover up. Thats the reality.


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T. wrote:
That's common sense a thing extremely lacking on this site and in your posts in particular.

But are you tempted to pick up off the streets when you are not in your manor?

If not, then why should I be tempted? :?


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Every taxi driver sees PH cars picking up from the streets all the time its a frequent occurance, few bother to report it because of the time lost and paperwork involved. Seeing it and proving it are very different things. Most circuits are mixed and so there is pressure from the circuit operators not to report PH illegal pick-ups and its very easy to invent a booking to cover up. Thats the reality.


This post shows me that it is really paranoia not privatehire that is your problem.

You "see PH cars picking up from the streets all the time" apparently. Could this be because the pickups have booked a PHV in preference to a Hackney...maybe because they are regular customers,known to the company and they know they get a good reliable service. 8)

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If there was no such thing as PH the so called taxis would never cope with all the work and you would have to have more taxi licenses issued so you would be in the same boat as now :roll:


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Every taxi driver sees PH cars picking up from the streets all the time its a frequent occurance, few bother to report it because of the time lost and paperwork involved.

But how will ridding signage make any difference?

We both know that if touts want to tout, then they will. With proper signage at least they have a chance of getting caught.

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allo allo wrote:
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Sussex wrote:
T. wrote:
That's common sense a thing extremely lacking on this site and in your posts in particular.

But are you tempted to pick up off the streets when you are not in your manor?

If not, then why should I be tempted? :?


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Every taxi driver sees PH cars picking up from the streets all the time its a frequent occurance, few bother to report it because of the time lost and paperwork involved. Seeing it and proving it are very different things. Most circuits are mixed and so there is pressure from the circuit operators not to report PH illegal pick-ups and its very easy to invent a booking to cover up. Thats the reality.


This post shows me that it is really paranoia not privatehire that is your problem.

You "see PH cars picking up from the streets all the time" apparently. Could this be because the pickups have booked a PHV in preference to a Hackney...maybe because they are regular customers,known to the company and they know they get a good reliable service. 8)


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Do specsavers do those rose-tinted-spectacles you so obviously wear. I drive PH as well as Taxi vehicles so please grant me some respect. Not everyone is going to swallow you fairy tales. PH would not survive without the "extra" jobs they find on the street.


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Do specsavers do those rose-tinted-spectacles you so obviously wear.


Yes , I always wait till they do a 2 for 1 offer so I can spot a"street pickup" better. :lol:

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.....ad of PH paying for it out of their license fee's. (but it wont matter because we'll all be the same soon)


Not in London you won't.

It would be a start when that particular side of the London trade can communicate in English. :lol:


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We both know that if touts want to tout, then they will. With proper signage at least they have a chance of getting caught.


........or make it for simpler to attract potential 'victims'?

Thats why you will never see them on London minicabs. \:D/


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We both know that if touts want to tout, then they will. With proper signage at least they have a chance of getting caught.


........or make it for simpler to attract potential 'victims'?

Thats why you will never see them on London minicabs. \:D/


No the reason you'll never see them on London PHVs is because the hackney trade in London has got the authorities in it's collective pocket because of the history of the activities of the unlicensed minicab trade in the past.

In the rest of the country PHVs have been licensed for ages and operate accordingly with plated cars and badged drivers ( in many cases with large door/roof/window signage so that the public who have booked us can identify us ).
A bit like hackneys except we can't pick up off the street :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Fight Back
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2) Ban PH cars from using Taximeters. A PH operator must enter a contract (verbally is just as binding and valid) stating clear the price for the job when accepting a booking.

Should be Ban Hacks from working for PH firms, If you cant make the money as a Hack...go and work for tesco

3) No mixed advertising. All Taxi Owners/Operators should boycott any publication that lists Taxis and PH together as one. Each should have its own section. YP has done more to elevate the status of PH and confuse the public than any other publication. A Taxi is a TAXI a PH is not a Taxi by another name.

A Taxi is a TAXI a PH is not a Taxi yea right......lol
I bet any PH driver does more jobs than a hack...so who is doing more for the public.


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2) Ban PH cars from using Taximeters. A PH operator must enter a contract (verbally is just as binding and valid) stating clear the price for the job when accepting a booking.

Should be Ban Hacks from working for PH firms, If you cant make the money as a Hack...go and work for tesco

3) No mixed advertising. All Taxi Owners/Operators should boycott any publication that lists Taxis and PH together as one. Each should have its own section. YP has done more to elevate the status of PH and confuse the public than any other publication. A Taxi is a TAXI a PH is not a Taxi by another name.

A Taxi is a TAXI a PH is not a Taxi yea right......lol
I bet any PH driver does more jobs than a hack...so who is doing more for the public.



So why do you all want Hacks??????
Yes I agree no mixed fleets, you are either Hack or PH.
75 % of telephone bookings are for ASAP that's not prebooked.


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T. wrote:
75 % of telephone bookings are for ASAP that's not prebooked.


Says who? Not the law, not licensing officers ,not trade press, not TGWU , not GMB, not High Court judges, not...not...not..

T. , with all due respect , this sounds like you just want a bigger slice of the cake than you've got.
Both PH and Hackneys provide a "taxi" service to the general public, we do it in slightly different ways to make our respective contracts with the hirer but that's about it as regards differences.
I agree with some of the points you have made but don't you think you're whistling in the wind with trying to change the current status quo.
Whether we should have this current status quo is another argument altogether and I'm sure our views might be more similar on that score.

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