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Are we all satisfied with our current legislation?

Getting folks to sign anything, even on-line, is a struggle.

Maybe the chap behind the petition should take his lap-top up to the PHTM Show in May. :wink:

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Any vehicle operating for hire and reward should operate from the area in which it is licensed.

Does that mean that if a customer phoned you on your mobile and wanted to be picked up in another authority to go on a very lucrative fare,you would refuse the fare :?: :?: :?: :-k


A Hackney Carriage owner does not need a seperate licence to accept bookings, so no I would accept the booking.

But thats not what the argument is all about Badger.

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badger wrote:
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Any vehicle operating for hire and reward should operate from the area in which it is licensed.

Does that mean that if a customer phoned you on your mobile and wanted to be picked up in another authority to go on a very lucrative fare,you would refuse the fare :?: :?: :?: :-k


No I would not refuse the fare, but as a Private Hire operator Licensed in Gateshead I would only use vehicles licensed in Gateshead to undertake that hiring..

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But thats not what the argument is all about Badger.

Have you signed the petition? :?

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Sussex I don't believe that the laws in this country need to be completely re-written.

It was suggested that we are governed by legislation enacted in 1847, I say that the law regarding HC vehicles is fundamentally as relevant now as it was all the way back in 1847 and that the most confusing legislation is included within the 1976 Act which I agree does need to be looked at.

Lets just for a minute clamber into the real world .................. if we seek out what is unclear and contradictory within the 1976 and the 1985 Acts then we can seek to update legislation to take into account modern technology and needs. Updating these parts of the legislation will take significantly less time to implement than a whole new Act.

Certain points need changing now, in a few years it may be to late if we are to retain any level of professionalism.

Alternatively we could just roll out the most recent legislation enacted within our industry across the whole country ................ I'm sure the London Private Hire Act is to your satisfaction.

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Sussex I don't believe that the laws in this country need to be completely re-written.

So you think tinkering with the cross border issue and the DDA is all that's needed? :?

Not concerned about safety and standards. :?

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Sussex I don't believe that the laws in this country need to be completely re-written.

So you think tinkering with the cross border issue and the DDA is all that's needed? :?

Not concerned about safety and standards. :?


Absolutely not, but you can't tell me that either of the things you mentioned aren't about both safety and standards, although many more things obviously need to be changed as well.

I wonder why you fail to mentioned the possible suggestion of the implementation of the London PH Act across England and Wales.

Maybe, instead of commenting on other peoples statements, you should produce some examples of where you see legislation in need of change.

Commentary on subjects is easy Sussex, however sticking your head above the pulpit and making statements about issues which will stimulate debate is not so easy, and that's why you don't do it.

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Commentary on subjects is easy Sussex, however sticking your head above the pulpit and making statements about issues which will stimulate debate is not so easy, and that's why you don't do it.

Surely if more people signed the petition, and the gov did a complete reviews of all acts relating to the taxi/PH trade, then it would be open to all to bring around change, not just the folks with the big mouths. :wink:

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I wonder why you fail to mentioned the possible suggestion of the implementation of the London PH Act across England and Wales.

Remind me where it differs from the 1976 act. :?

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Maybe, instead of commenting on other peoples statements, you should produce some examples of where you see legislation in need of change.

Well I think the cross border issue is a start, but I want a national ops license, whereas I think you want a local 'never leave your manor' one. :?

Maybe compulsory DSA, and stiff knowledge tests.

A system where all drivers are treated the same, that's not just sorting quotas, but having the same set of rules for everyone.

Not one rank for one and one for another (I know I said I wouldn't mention it, but it's only an example Cap), not one set of vehicle conditions for some, and one set for others, and in the case of a certain sea-side city, another set for some other drivers.

Fare formula set locally and reviewed locally.

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allo allo wrote:
At the time of writing this there have been 310 views of this petition posting on this forum.

But only 18 people have actually signed the petition.

Are we all satisfied with our current legislation?


It may be a less than significant point but if you look at the other Taxi petitions yours has by far the greatest number of signatures. So perhaps some solace can be gained from that?

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As normal monkeys will sign anything, this petition lends more weight to the argument against change, I can see it now, you want change, you say everyone wants change, how many thousands and thousands of drivers are there, it doesn't look like too many are concerned to me...... :lol: :lol:

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Sussex wrote:
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Commentary on subjects is easy Sussex, however sticking your head above the pulpit and making statements about issues which will stimulate debate is not so easy, and that's why you don't do it.

Surely if more people signed the petition, and the gov did a complete reviews of all acts relating to the taxi/PH trade, then it would be open to all to bring around change, not just the folks with the big mouths. :wink:


Maybe some folks with big mouths don't have loud voices Sussex .............. and respect is something that is earned.

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As normal monkeys will sign anything, this petition lends more weight to the argument against change, I can see it now, you want change, you say everyone wants change, how many thousands and thousands of drivers are there, it doesn't look like too many are concerned to me...... :lol: :lol:


I suppose there are two types of monkeys those that want change and those that think like you.

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Sussex wrote:
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Maybe, instead of commenting on other peoples statements, you should produce some examples of where you see legislation in need of change.

Well I think the cross border issue is a start, but I want a national ops license, whereas I think you want a local 'never leave your manor' one. :?

Maybe compulsory DSA, and stiff knowledge tests.

A system where all drivers are treated the same, that's not just sorting quotas, but having the same set of rules for everyone.

Not one rank for one and one for another (I know I said I wouldn't mention it, but it's only an example Cap), not one set of vehicle conditions for some, and one set for others, and in the case of a certain sea-side city, another set for some other drivers.

Fare formula set locally and reviewed locally.

And no grasses. [-X


I would love to see -

The right number of HC for the area they are licensed in currently some areas have to few BUT most have to many

Proper and recognised training to replace knowledge tests and possibly involve DSA tests

National Vehicle Standards for WAVs not to include back street conversions but to include professional converters

Mandatory Calender controlled meters in all HC and PH vehicles programmed ONLY with council approved rates

National Taxi & PH Council made up of the representative groups as well as other interested parties possibly including websites, to constantly review licensing legislation with government, but leaving responsibility with the local authorities

National Advertising to promote the use of HC and PH vehicles clearly identifying the difference between the way they are legally hired

Unity within our industry we have to many people involved not to have a real voice within the transport sector ........... after all we all put up with the same $hit

There are probably more, but I have a job on in 15 mins and wor lass has just put a cuppa beside me.

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