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Yes, there are certainly lots of questions surrounding the issue Gusmac, and I think that's why the whole thing has never moved forward at the national level, and why at the local level it's a bit messy.

Still, that won't deter our good councillors though :?

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I'm not so sure - I think the legislation states that services have to be provided on a basis whereby the disabled aren't disadvantaged by their disablement as compared to able bodied people - thus if you charge more to load the taxi then you're discriminating.


I dont charge "more" to load the taxi, I charge the standard metered rate.

I don't discrimanate against anyone, I just expect to be paid for my time. Not unreasonable is it?

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Isn't it about time we were able to start the meter when people are standing beside your taxi for an eternity and other punters are coming along and going into the cabs behind?


I was always under the impression that as long as you inform the punter that you intend to start the meter, then you can start the meter at anytime.

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I am told by my LA that the meter is turned on when the journey begins. This means when the wheels start to turn. Next someone will say that the meter should start when you start to load the wheelchair into the cab for a disabled customer.


Too right it does. my cab is a business, not a charity


Disability discrimination act. It is illegal to disadvantage someone who is diabled by starting the meter whilst loading the wheelchair.


I was told by a senior examiner at the PCO to start the meter before loading the wheelchair, otherwise the taxi is still for hire and can be taken by someone else.

It is not disadvantaging someone because of their disability, merely charging them the going rate for the service provided.

By your way of thinking a wheelchair user could argue that if it wasn't for their disability they would be able to walk to wherever they are going so shouldn't have to pay for the cab at all.

No different to on supermarket jobs starting the meter before loading the shopping.


Since when has a vehicle examiner been qualified to give advice on the legal operation of a meter.

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Since when has a vehicle examiner been qualified to give advice on the legal operation of a meter.


He is a Knowledge of London Examiner holding a senior posistion at the P.C.O., also a taxi driver of many years experiance.

It was in a talk given to new drivers when I got my badge.

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You have to remember Grandad, The world's finest are also taught by the world's finest, not some pencil neck who was working on the council streetlight maintenance team the week before. :wink:

I agree with you Bart, when I'm hailed I'm being paid, I don't do free, one leg, two leg's or otherwise. If I'm assisting with loading luggage for a sole occupant it's the same. I'd welcome the test case, as I'm sure the LTDA solicitors would.
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Bart wrote:
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I'm not so sure - I think the legislation states that services have to be provided on a basis whereby the disabled aren't disadvantaged by their disablement as compared to able bodied people - thus if you charge more to load the taxi then you're discriminating.


I dont charge "more" to load the taxi, I charge the standard metered rate.

I don't discrimanate against anyone, I just expect to be paid for my time. Not unreasonable is it?


Well I wasn't commenting on the reasonableness of it, just my understanding of the legal position.

I think the point is that you charge more for a disabled person than an able bodied one as a consequence of the former being disabled, thus it's considered to be discrimination on the grounds of disability.

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