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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:00 pm 
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Just keeping to the legal side , very commendable, you have both seen the light..
it is our aim on Taxi Driver online to educate and save lost souls from a life of unlawful opporating.


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Shocking truly.

Talk about grabbing for straws. How can this self drive thing be right? COIF and so on are there for a reason (and if you need to ask why, well that says it all). Self drive! what ever next.

Ho hum never mind, i guess these boys know what they are getting into.

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I suppose that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It matters not whether members on here think the system is legal or not the fact is none of them have been taken to court and convicted. Why would this be? There are operators of lincoln towncar limos out there that carry 10 passengers and don't get prosecuted. The police and VOSA know who they are but they have official letters saying that they are operating legally so lets face it, somehow it must be legal.

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I suppose that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It matters not whether members on here think the system is legal or not the fact is none of them have been taken to court and convicted. Why would this be? There are operators of lincoln towncar limos out there that carry 10 passengers and don't get prosecuted. The police and VOSA know who they are but they have official letters saying that they are operating legally so lets face it, somehow it must be legal.


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I suppose that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It matters not whether members on here think the system is legal or not the fact is none of them have been taken to court and convicted. Why would this be? There are operators of lincoln towncar limos out there that carry 10 passengers and don't get prosecuted. The police and VOSA know who they are but they have official letters saying that they are operating legally so lets face it, somehow it must be legal.


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I suppose that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It matters not whether members on here think the system is legal or not the fact is none of them have been taken to court and convicted. Why would this be? There are operators of lincoln towncar limos out there that carry 10 passengers and don't get prosecuted. The police and VOSA know who they are but they have official letters saying that they are operating legally so lets face it, somehow it must be legal.


Don't know much about VOSA, but many LAs are effectively a law unto themselves, so it would hardly be surprising if VOSA were condoning illegal actions.

As with errant LAs, it's not so easy for those aggrieved to take them on, which is why so many sail so close to the wind.

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VOSA ! U-Drive scheme ! Blimey, are they behind all this then?

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VOSA ! U-Drive scheme ! Blimey, are they behind all this then?


VOSA are fully aware of it and despite what some might say most of them are happy with it, clearly you cant please all the people all the time, but as per Grandads post if it was that illegal then why has no-one been prosecuted for using it

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So who would be doing the prosecuting?

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I would guess that any prosecution would be done by either VOSA or the Police. The LA could only prosecute a vehicle that was carrying no more than 8 passengers or more than 8 if it were licensed.

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So in the normal course of events VOSA are interpreting the law and enforcing it, thus if they're interpreting it in a certain way they're not going to prosecute themselves to see if their interpretation is correct.

Bit of a conflict of interest there.

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So in the normal course of events VOSA are interpreting the law and enforcing it, thus if they're interpreting it in a certain way they're not going to prosecute themselves to see if their interpretation is correct.

Bit of a conflict of interest there.


Thats an interesting perspective you have on things :roll:

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I'm not sure why Mr Kermit?

Suppose an LA had an illegal policy on vehicle types.

They're not going to take legal action against themselves, are they?

Ditto VOSA?

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TDO wrote:
I'm not sure why Mr Kermit?

Suppose an LA had an illegal policy on vehicle types.

They're not going to take legal action against themselves, are they?

Ditto VOSA?


And that's why when you are licenced correctly by either LA or VOSA they come after you for some petty thing like a light out or a missing hammer that the kids have just nicked because they know they are on safe ground.

Ask them to catch the ones on the edge, walking the line, much to difficult.

In summary

Target licensed ops = easy to find = makes figures look good = quick & easy.

Dodgy ops = difficult to find ](*,) = takes up too much time = figures don't look good = sod it, go for the easy route. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

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I'm not sure why Mr Kermit?

Suppose an LA had an illegal policy on vehicle types.

They're not going to take legal action against themselves, are they?

Ditto VOSA?


And that's why when you are licenced correctly by either LA or VOSA they come after you for some petty thing like a light out or a missing hammer that the kids have just nicked because they know they are on safe ground.

Ask them to catch the ones on the edge, walking the line, much to difficult.

In summary

Target licensed ops = easy to find = makes figures look good = quick & easy.

Dodgy ops = difficult to find ](*,) = takes up too much time = figures don't look good = sod it, go for the easy route. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)


Bloody hell, I agree with you.......well almost. The police and VOSA are actually giving the operators that are described as "dodgy" letters to show that they are OK to operate the way they are. But yes it is far easier to prosecute some one who is licensed by whatever method than some one who isn't.

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