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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:49 pm 
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Just think John, what if 50 people apply before those on the IPL? That could mean 50 interested ass8holes left on the list for another 20 years. :lol: :lol: :lol:

One more try. Forget the IPL exists for a minute.
If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?
Now that's a question, now try offering an answer without going down your usual road.


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You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Another 1 that clearly doesn't like freedom of speech, bye bye fella have a goodun :D


I think John is a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate.

Silly boy :lol:


John did not spend "all that money for a plate." Consequently he is not "a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate."


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John T wrote:
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Just think John, what if 50 people apply before those on the IPL? That could mean 50 interested ass8holes left on the list for another 20 years. :lol: :lol: :lol:

One more try. Forget the IPL exists for a minute.
If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?
Now that's a question, now try offering an answer without going down your usual road.


You must be having a laugh, its because of the IPL the council is in this fecking mess. Now you tell me how the council decides who gets a licence and who doesn't, and how do they tell someone on the IPL they've been beaten to the punch by a rogue application.

"Sorry, come back in another 20 years you might be lucky then".

The fact is the C.E.C. would have to grant every licence applied for, to get to those on the IPL. If they did'nt, they would face further legal challenge by those on the IPL who missed out.

Now do we get the picture?

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John T wrote:
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You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Another 1 that clearly doesn't like freedom of speech, bye bye fella have a goodun :D


I think John is a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate.

Silly boy :lol:


John did not spend "all that money for a plate." Consequently he is not "a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate."



So John is just a fanny who wants to pay hiked rentals to force up plate premiums while competing against an increasing number of drivers fighting over fewer availiable shifts.

TIT :roll:

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John T wrote:
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You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Another 1 that clearly doesn't like freedom of speech, bye bye fella have a goodun :D


I think John is a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate.

Silly boy :lol:


John did not spend "all that money for a plate." Consequently he is not "a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate."


‘Increasing the number of employees increases employer power’.


This simple fact translates into hike rentals (often against market conditions, as is the case at this point in time) and increased plate premiums. The only people not competing are the owners, who, for the most part, depend on increasing driver numbers to fuel their employment status.

The only way this can be achieved is by restricting the choice of employment opportunities for drivers’ i.e. limiting the number of available shifts by artificially capping the number of vehicles.

This is why I don’t believe you are a driver John, as only a servile idiot would advocate paying more for fewer choices, while working more hours for less money.

Now take into consideration the other transport groups expanding on the back of a burgeoning Edinburgh economy. The only group not expanding is the taxi trade.

In the next few years the Ph will expand to take most of the work, and as long as idiots like you are prepared to pay 50K + for licence, you will refuse to even notice hoping the drivers will bail you out.

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One more try. Forget the IPL exists for a minute.


Aye right John, is there anything else you would like me to leave out like the C.E.C having to prove there is "no significant unmet demand" to deny a licence?

BTW, just in case you haven't noticed, this thread is titled Got the Bas*ards because of the IPL.


What a turkey;” Forget the IPL exists for a minute”:roll:

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If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?

I think that's when a list of some sort could be viewed as having merit, or maybe a council would just stick names in a hat.

The problem I see the lads on the list as having is that they have applied to go on a list, not applied for a taxi ops license. So anyone who has applied for a taxi ops license, IMO, will rate far higher when the plates are dished out.

So when an application is before the court for a taxi ops license, it's a very easy task for that court to issue that license as there is SUD.

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Sussex wrote:
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If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?

I think that's when a list of some sort could be viewed as having merit, or maybe a council would just stick names in a hat.

The problem I see the lads on the list as having is that they have applied to go on a list, not applied for a taxi ops license. So anyone who has applied for a taxi ops license, IMO, will rate far higher when the plates are dished out.

So when an application is before the court for a taxi ops license, it's a very easy task for that court to issue that license as there is SUD.


=D>

Now just try explaining that to John T :roll:

Chances are he will ask you to forget all about the list, and him a driver as well :roll:

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Just think John, what if 50 people apply before those on the IPL? That could mean 50 interested ass8holes left on the list for another 20 years. :lol: :lol: :lol:

One more try. Forget the IPL exists for a minute.
If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?
Now that's a question, now try offering an answer without going down your usual road.


You must be having a laugh, its because of the IPL the council is in this fecking mess. Now you tell me how the council decides who gets a licence and who doesn't, and how do they tell someone on the IPL they've been beaten to the punch by a rogue application.

"Sorry, come back in another 20 years you might be lucky then".

The fact is the C.E.C. would have to grant every licence applied for, to get to those on the IPL. If they did'nt, they would face further legal challenge by those on the IPL who missed out.

Now do we get the picture?


You forgot to answer the question, stupid boy!!
The question was "If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?"
Or don't you know the answer?
If I take it one step at a time, you might see where we are going.


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Sussex wrote:
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If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?

I think that's when a list of some sort could be viewed as having merit, or maybe a council would just stick names in a hat.

The problem I see the lads on the list as having is that they have applied to go on a list, not applied for a taxi ops license. So anyone who has applied for a taxi ops license, IMO, will rate far higher when the plates are dished out.

So when an application is before the court for a taxi ops license, it's a very easy task for that court to issue that license as there is SUD.


The lads on the list did not apply to go on the list. They were put on the list after having been refused licences. The council stopped adding to the list when it became apparent that it was unlikely that the list would be referred to in their lifetime.
So now, if SUD did exist and those on the IPL applied as well as others not on the list, we have the scenario that Skull cannot comprehend. The IPL can be referred to in order to assist the council in their deliberations about who gets and who does not. The IPL comes into play because those on it expressed an interest BEFORE those not on it and this could be used as one factor in deciding applications.
Hopefully you and others see what Skull cannot.


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The lads on the list did not apply to go on the list. They were put on the list after having been refused licences. The council stopped adding to the list when it became apparent that it was unlikely that the list would be referred to in their lifetime.
So now, if SUD did exist and those on the IPL applied as well as others not on the list, we have the scenario that Skull cannot comprehend. The IPL can be referred to in order to assist the council in their deliberations about who gets and who does not. The IPL comes into play because those on it expressed an interest BEFORE those not on it and this could be used as one factor in deciding applications.
Hopefully you and others see what Skull cannot.

I can see where you are coming from, and to a degree have sympathy with the lads on the list.

But, and it's a big but, those lads had their chance to appeal when they did, and they didn't.

Whereas, if I've read things right, Mr Taylor has his chance to appeal and is. So any current SUD is going to be met by current applications first, and if there is anything left in the pot, then that may go to the lads on the list.

Now that's a pox way of dealing with things to some, but if we didn't have numbers restrictions in the first place all this f***ing around wouldn't happen.

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One other thing in regards to Edinburgh.

Did we ever get a response from the FoI request over the council's legal costs?

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John T wrote:
Sussex wrote:
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If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?

I think that's when a list of some sort could be viewed as having merit, or maybe a council would just stick names in a hat.

The problem I see the lads on the list as having is that they have applied to go on a list, not applied for a taxi ops license. So anyone who has applied for a taxi ops license, IMO, will rate far higher when the plates are dished out.

So when an application is before the court for a taxi ops license, it's a very easy task for that court to issue that license as there is SUD.


The lads on the list did not apply to go on the list. They were put on the list after having been refused licences. The council stopped adding to the list when it became apparent that it was unlikely that the list would be referred to in their lifetime.
So now, if SUD did exist and those on the IPL applied as well as others not on the list, we have the scenario that Skull cannot comprehend. The IPL can be referred to in order to assist the council in their deliberations about who gets and who does not. The IPL comes into play because those on it expressed an interest BEFORE those not on it and this could be used as one factor in deciding applications.
Hopefully you and others see what Skull cannot.



So is there any difference between the people on the IPL and the recent applicants in edinburgh? Yet anyone applying now or recently is seen as someone who wants to destroy the trade.The people on the IPL are seen as something completely different.(strange)!!!!!!


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Sussex wrote:
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If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?

I think that's when a list of some sort could be viewed as having merit, or maybe a council would just stick names in a hat.

The problem I see the lads on the list as having is that they have applied to go on a list, not applied for a taxi ops license. So anyone who has applied for a taxi ops license, IMO, will rate far higher when the plates are dished out.

So when an application is before the court for a taxi ops license, it's a very easy task for that court to issue that license as there is SUD.


The lads on the list did not apply to go on the list. They were put on the list after having been refused licences. The council stopped adding to the list when it became apparent that it was unlikely that the list would be referred to in their lifetime.
So now, if SUD did exist and those on the IPL applied as well as others not on the list, we have the scenario that Skull cannot comprehend. The IPL can be referred to in order to assist the council in their deliberations about who gets and who does not. The IPL comes into play because those on it expressed an interest BEFORE those not on it and this could be used as one factor in deciding applications.
Hopefully you and others see what Skull cannot.



So is there any difference between the people on the IPL and the recent applicants in edinburgh? Yet anyone applying now or recently is seen as someone who wants to destroy the trade.The people on the IPL are seen as something completely different.(strange)!!!!!!


Post again when you know the full story. Not all of the recent applicants want to destroy the trade, most of them were misled by the nonsense coming out of skull and taylor.


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John T wrote:
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If a survey indicates that 20 additional licences would meet an unmet demand, and there are 40 applicants for licences. Do they all get a licence or how is it decided who gets and who doesn't?

I think that's when a list of some sort could be viewed as having merit, or maybe a council would just stick names in a hat.

The problem I see the lads on the list as having is that they have applied to go on a list, not applied for a taxi ops license. So anyone who has applied for a taxi ops license, IMO, will rate far higher when the plates are dished out.

So when an application is before the court for a taxi ops license, it's a very easy task for that court to issue that license as there is SUD.


The lads on the list did not apply to go on the list. They were put on the list after having been refused licences. The council stopped adding to the list when it became apparent that it was unlikely that the list would be referred to in their lifetime.
So now, if SUD did exist and those on the IPL applied as well as others not on the list, we have the scenario that Skull cannot comprehend. The IPL can be referred to in order to assist the council in their deliberations about who gets and who does not. The IPL comes into play because those on it expressed an interest BEFORE those not on it and this could be used as one factor in deciding applications.
Hopefully you and others see what Skull cannot.



So is there any difference between the people on the IPL and the recent applicants in edinburgh? Yet anyone applying now or recently is seen as someone who wants to destroy the trade.The people on the IPL are seen as something completely different.(strange)!!!!!!


Post again when you know the full story. Not all of the recent applicants want to destroy the trade, most of them were misled by the nonsense coming out of skull and taylor.


How can they be: "misled by the nonsense coming out of skull and taylor" they got their plates didn't they? And they didn't have to pay 50K for the privilege :wink:

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