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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:19 pm 
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Good on you Junie

Too many folk seem happy to subscribe to the 'only a cabbie' attitude or the 'well theres nothing I can do about it' defeatism. We all get angry about the attacks on drivers and about the t***s that drive taxis or PH and cause distress to passengers, it all makes it harder for the good guys (and girls) that drive to do a good job.

Let me know what sort of things you need as a Private Message and I for one will see what I can do to help.

Crap LA's and local police forces like mine need to be made to feel a bit uncomfortable about things, and maybe slowly their attitudes will change. No one deserves the abuse we take in our jobs but we seem to just accept it as part of the job, we shouldn't have to, and we shouldn't have to get another job if we don't like it.


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 Post subject: Re: Safety in Taxis
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:21 pm 
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OK Guys.

I am setting up a website to raise awareness and use it to do some kicking to get safty for driver and passenger in taxis taken seriously.


Once the site is up and running you will be in-undated with bad tales from the taxi/PH trade.


The issue is can anything be done about it, and answers are yes, and no. Yes in areas where councils, police and the trade work together (about 10% IMO) and no in the rest.

But I wish you well.


I think that the whole point will be about bad experiences, the trouble at the moment is that nobody is interested, and people are dying. One of our drivers was so seriously injured 6 months, ago he is still off work and does not know if he will be able to return, and he is one of the young ones.

If as indicated in an earlier post that the problems were endorsed with a crime number, then the problems we are facing will be factual. With the stats gathered the councils can be approached on a safety issue, of which they would ignore at their own peril.

I would be quite willing to have a camera (if subsidized) on the roof of my cab as well as inside. If we all did that the crime would fall quite dramatically and the streets would become safer, and so would we.

Or we can sit back and tut,tut,tut and do nothing. I am not having a go at you or anyone, But! there are do'ers and those who are going to do

It could be you or me next!

I am prepared to stick my neck out on this one, that is to stand up and be counted - or do we all do nothing!


I think your being unfair, there is something happening and representative bodies are having a positive input......I know thats a shi**y statement to say on the back of 46 deaths in 15 years, butI can assre you the NTA is working towards a solution....unlike another organsation I could mention who are more interested in fringe benefits.

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As I said CC I am not having a go at anyone - When I say no one is interested - I mean the authoritys i.e Police, L.As, Local politicians and for that matter politicians in general.

Having said that when people are dying - how can a process be so slow, this is a subject that should be as high profile as possible.


I know where your coming from, but if I tell you the current consultation is government inspired, I would hope tis would partially calm your anger.

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Part of Junies attitude would appear to be from personal circumstances / experiences and the attitudes from within the taxi trade.

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I think the whole point is to change the attitude. The attitude that drivers are open to a pop is unchallenged even among licencing officers, police, local govt and drivers themselves. In the recent elections I spoke to a Labour canvassing politician in the street about taxiing. Without a blink he speiled out his prejudice about drivers and was as anti-driver as "the scum of the earth" and cause of all woes" as the next man. When I argued and told him about the hours, the inconsistency of pay, the stupid rules and lack of support he asked me for my name and badge number. When I asked why, He said he would take it off me. Charming!!! So if the traditional party of the working class does not support the working class where to now? (PS I am not for any party)

I was a forensic nurse and changed the level of assaults on ward by challenging the assumption by staff and patients that it came with the job Both patients and staff thought patients had a right to "pop" staff. Spme patients even thought it was constitutional. by challenging the abuse went to zero, but also put in someother approaches to de-escalate besides decking and jabbing. Mental Hospitals are not nice places. If you are not mad when you go in you will be. If I can change the attitude and behavior of chronic schizophrenics and hardened staf I am sure we can change the attitude of the mentally well public and bodies to taxi drivers ;)

We are all made by our experience and we all feel passionate about what affects us directly. My beef is that I handle lots of things and help public and police etc but when I need help I'm on my own and its part of my job. No one should ever accept that or be ancouraged to accept that.

Have slowly in monosylables explained to passengers that if they went into a pub and spoke or treated the landlady the way they trated me "Would they expect a pint?" No matter how puudlbrain they are they say "No." So (talking even more slowly) why do you expect a taxi ride? Computer computes and I get a chorus of "Sorry" "Sorry" "Sorry" and nice behaviour as I drive them home. Then as every man likes a strong assertive woman several requests for a date (get lost)

My Cab My Rules. Don't Like My Rules. Don't Get In My Cab.

I have even a song made up for me "Junie is a Legend. Junie is Legend" and some offered and did 30 press ups in the pouring rain as punshment
(Their idea not mine)

So I can handle it. I'm just fed up that every driver is on his/her own. "It's only a taxi driver" is an attitude held by most which needs to be changed.

Junie


The vast majority are for a better safer taxi service. The minority is made up of thugs and those who are apathetic till they need a cab in an emergencey.

Only collating and making a greater statement and agruement for what peole think anyway

Junie

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I know where your coming from, but if I tell you the current consultation is government inspired, I would hope tis would partially calm your anger.

CC


Please tell me more and where I can find this govt initiative?

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Junie,when will your website be up and running,I cant wait,plenty to tell regards abuse by pax and inappropriate behaviour especially by young binge drinking females often accompanied by neurotic behaviour and severe paranoid delusions about taxi drivers,the world!


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Sussex wrote:
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Wasn't Tigger in Jungle Book?

If I see another Tigger, Pooh or that bloody Mouse ever again I'm going to ring their bloody necks. :sad:



And here was me thinking that you'd be introducing a new Tigger Taxi service on your return :lol:

The uniform would be a bit warm in the summer though :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:03 pm 
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Ok Lots of people have lots to say, both ways. Don't want to get into the nitty gritty irritations but about real threats. Manage many a wayward man on a Saturday night. But it is only a few that are a real threat. But not always the ones you think. Some of the bad lads are better than the good lads. becasue I can tell them off an they don't get a hissy fit over it.

But seriously looking at real threats. But as a woman I only get in the back. have done since a teenager. Not worth the 1 for the sake of the 99. Its getting rough out there. Not paranoia. If we want to change it we will have to tackle the element that ruins it for everyone.

As long as she hasn't got you vitals in one hand and a machette in the other she's ok she's not a threat.

A proper campaign may reduce fear and paranoia. If the taxi business tackles the problem there would be more confidence. It is a situation that is abused by those who do so can't say people haven't got genuine concerns.

Haha. Had a few discussions tonight couldn't get off our bad driving and parking and blocking roads. Really want to focus on the serious stuff.

Anyway you're making me neurotic so I am off to empty the fridge and comfort eat. If I'm 2-4lb heavier tomorrow and wider in the hip its your fault.

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It appears that Tigger got to more than one of you. You can slag her off all you like but at the end of the day whilst sunning herself on a Thai beach I doubt for one second that she is actually thinking of any of you :lol: :lol: :lol:

And taking the words from the stated song Tigger is bouncy (would say in a couple of ways but she'd slap me for sure) and when thoroughly rested and restored to her former glory I know she will be back and that attitude of hers will be bigger than ever :oops: and she will definately be supporting the likes of Junie as I'm sure most of you will be her ideas are fantastic and should be seen as a way forward in raising awareness and actually getting something done to prevent us becoming yet another statistic.


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Where is Junie,it's all gone a bit quiet,where is the new website?okay she said it needed a bit more twiddling but whats the hold up.

C'mon Junie I have so much to contribute as regards abuse, of course there are many different forms of abuse,racial,religious psychological,emotional,financial,physical and of course sexual harassment and as this country lags behind most other "civilised" countries with regard to the law on these issues we will have to do it ourselves by exposing the perpetrators,remember tort law Junie,I have :D and I intend using it very shortly.

Some of them are not as clever as they think they are Junie,are you free to cause damage to another person in this country Junie,I dont think so,not without consequence anyway.


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If someone is going to start up a website re: driver's safety, then I would sooner they took their time and got it right, than rushed it and messed it up.

Especially if the press are going to be advised of it. :wink:

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I agree,but so much to disclose,I cant wait. :wink:


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Hi

i am still here. Twiddling a bit more today. Bloody thing went up but links inconsistent. Using an "expert" It will be up. Will let you know. Big fanfare special posting.

I have used some piccies of taxis. I tried to find some nice piccies of some nice friendly handsome cabbies smiling. but all the cabbies on Yahoo pictures look like a line up for the Usual Suspects. Bloody scarey. Ugly lot aren't you?

Be patient. learning curve all this web design. Like sliding down the razor blade of life as Tom Lehrer use to say.

I have put a cap on the amount of words so no posting the Telephone directory on it.

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Yea as sussex says. have to get it right and see carefully what I might get back. Thinking very carefully how it reads who reads it liability, [edited by admin] hitting fan etc. [edited by admin] off the licencing office who ahve refused to acknowledge the problem fro the last year and a half. BBC journalist has all the letters. Police interested. The other side is passenger feedback. Get rid of the ones who give us the bad reputation.

Will let you know.

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Glad you are back Junie,I look forward to contributing,I've had a bit of everything in this job,it's pure abuse sometimes, twiddle a bit harder if you like. =D>


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