Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Tue Apr 28, 2026 10:20 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 124 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
John,

Think of strategy as a series of hurdles you have got to overcome to gain a specific objective. Tactics are then a series of moves to jump each hurdle (smaller objectives) with the view to achieving your main objective i.e. licence plates.

All I do is open up a number of possibilities to those who have the balls to grasp the opportunity. We are committed to breaking this council to the benefit of anyone who has the balls to grab what he wants. Unfortunately, this doesn’t include anyone who wants go cap-in-hand to councillors, asking for their sanction to draw breath.

Qualified drivers should be entitled to their own vehicles simply because they are qualified to do so – end of.

BTW, if you don't want to compete in a free market John that's your problem. There are a lot of drivers out there who do. :wink:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
Can't help but get the feeling that might be the last we see of John T. :lol: :lol:


Typical Edinburgh Cabby: a servile idiot with fewer brains than a hens got teeth :lol:

Please, please can I pay more for my rental? I don't want my own cab I just want to give the owner a stipend to prop-up his little illusion.

Oh but then again, I can buy the plate for 50K+ and not really own it then worry myself sick the council might derestrict :roll:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:08 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:50 pm
Posts: 50
Location: edinburgh
When i first passed my brief i phoned up the cab office to see how i go about getting my own taxi,he said well son you can,t just do it like that! here,s what you do he then explained about the incorporation thing.I said to him i assume this is all above board? he replied hesitantly oh yes!
Do you think you would get that answer now????
I dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
mikey wrote:
When i first passed my brief i phoned up the cab office to see how i go about getting my own taxi,he said well son you can,t just do it like that! here,s what you do he then explained about the incorporation thing.I said to him i assume this is all above board? he replied hesitantly oh yes!
Do you think you would get that answer now????
I dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!


Not a chance, never mind thinking about it :wink:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
Come on John T tell me where I've got it wrong?


‘Increasing the number of employees increases employer power’.

In practice the larger the available employment pool, the easier it is to control the work force. This leads to high employment for low paid workers.

This simple fact translates into hike rentals and increased plate premiums against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. The only people not competing are the owners, who, for the most part, depend on increasing driver numbers to fuel their employment status. The end result being more people at the bottom, each a little unit of profit, toiling away into the wee small hours earning more for the owner.

Drivers are a commodity to be traded between owners, nothing more.

The only way this can be achieved is by restricting the choice of employment opportunities for drivers’ - limiting the number of available shifts by artificially capping the number of vehicles. The effect this has is more drivers crammed into fewer shifts, paying more money, while earning less, just to have a job.

With the upwards pressure on driver numbers, the Edinburgh Cab trade is now well on its way to having a part-time labour force. Soon you will have Mon-Thursday day/night drivers - Friday-Sun day/night drivers. The week will be split into part-time units. A driver’s rental (if there are rentals) will be the equivalent of a half or a third of the clock. You might even be paid by the hour.


The trades so called representative are well aware of where this is heading. They know the only way to increase their status is by having greater control over the workforce, and that means denying the driver the opportunity to compete for his own market. The council on the other hand want to protect their arms length Bus Company, their new Tram system, along with Private Hire interests, increasing the employment pool of the low paid workers.


Read it and weep boys, and remember, I told you so. :wink:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
John T must be on holiday or licking his wounds :lol: :lol: :lol:


Another one bites the dust
:lol:
Image

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:08 pm 
Skull wrote:
Come on John T tell me where I've got it wrong?


‘Increasing the number of employees increases employer power’.

In practice the larger the available employment pool, the easier it is to control the work force. This leads to high employment for low paid workers.

This simple fact translates into hike rentals and increased plate premiums against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. The only people not competing are the owners, who, for the most part, depend on increasing driver numbers to fuel their employment status. The end result being more people at the bottom, each a little unit of profit, toiling away into the wee small hours earning more for the owner.

Drivers are a commodity to be traded between owners, nothing more.

The only way this can be achieved is by restricting the choice of employment opportunities for drivers’ - limiting the number of available shifts by artificially capping the number of vehicles. The effect this has is more drivers crammed into fewer shifts, paying more money, while earning less, just to have a job.

With the upwards pressure on driver numbers, the Edinburgh Cab trade is now well on its way to having a part-time labour force. Soon you will have Mon-Thursday day/night drivers - Friday-Sun day/night drivers. The week will be split into part-time units. A driver’s rental (if there are rentals) will be the equivalent of a half or a third of the clock. You might even be paid by the hour.


The trades so called representative are well aware of where this is heading. They know the only way to increase their status is by having greater control over the workforce, and that means denying the driver the opportunity to compete for his own market. The council on the other hand want to protect their arms length Bus Company, their new Tram system, along with Private Hire interests, increasing the employment pool of the low paid workers.


Read it and weep boys, and remember, I told you so. :wink:


Yeah Skull

Perhaps the guys and gals should realise that rentals are only going one way - that's North.

With their own licence, and their own vehicle, drivers can have a fixed budgetable cost for an E7 over the next five years for around 200 quid a week. They should be comparing this with the uncertainty of rentals over the same period where the pressures for huge increases will exist because of the over supply of Labour, the restricted supply of vehicles in a council inspired shortage, and a group of owners who will capitalise on these factors big time.

As Skull says, you heard it here first. There's no excuse for bubbling in the future because you didn't believe us.

Drivers should be forming group partnerships now to lay the groundwork. Shared legal costs mean lower legal costs.

I'm paving the way, at huge expense, to bring about a recognition of the council's chicanery and double-dealing in the way it deals with taxi licensing. Victory here will mean that anyone ready to put down their £1205 will reap the reward. A mere thank you will suffice by the way.

Any licence application made now can be sisted on the back of my appeal, for a paltry fee. My winning my case would mean those licences would be granted automatically.

This is the time of opportunity. But only for those with the balls to take advantage.

Remeber Salteri et al. Who's laughing now?


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:10 pm
Posts: 75
So should I get an application in now Jim?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 1:09 pm 
The Lone Ranger wrote:
So should I get an application in now Jim?


Well Kemo Sabi. I can't advise you other than to tell you what I would do in the same circumstances.

Consider my case. The methodology of the council's surveys is now in the dock. We know it is a pile of merde. We aim to prove this to the Sheriff. Take out the survey and their pathetic vested interest questionnaires and the council is left with no demand information to refuse licences under section 10(3).

We also intend to show that councils can't trot out and get a "survey" just because an inconvenient application comes in.

That being the case, your application would be subject to the same information available as mine - nothing.

Your application, because the council believes it has sufficient info to deny should be dealt with within 6 - 8 weeks. No reason to delay.

Then you could sist your case on the back of mine. I get the result. You get the result.

Remember though, if they go to the IPL then demand has been established, that's another opportunity to apply. Applying now just puts you at the head of the game.

Group a few applications together and you lessen any risk. Legal bills shared are lower legal bills.

£1205 is a risk. The alternative is to pay over 50K, that's a gamble. Family silver in peril.

I think this is worth a serious punt.

Our lawyer is building a fair knowledge of taxi licensing matters and council deviousness. If you want me to put you in touch PM me.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
jasbar wrote:
Skull wrote:
Come on John T tell me where I've got it wrong?


‘Increasing the number of employees increases employer power’.

In practice the larger the available employment pool, the easier it is to control the work force. This leads to high employment for low paid workers.

This simple fact translates into hike rentals and increased plate premiums against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. The only people not competing are the owners, who, for the most part, depend on increasing driver numbers to fuel their employment status. The end result being more people at the bottom, each a little unit of profit, toiling away into the wee small hours earning more for the owner.

Drivers are a commodity to be traded between owners, nothing more.

The only way this can be achieved is by restricting the choice of employment opportunities for drivers’ - limiting the number of available shifts by artificially capping the number of vehicles. The effect this has is more drivers crammed into fewer shifts, paying more money, while earning less, just to have a job.

With the upwards pressure on driver numbers, the Edinburgh Cab trade is now well on its way to having a part-time labour force. Soon you will have Mon-Thursday day/night drivers - Friday-Sun day/night drivers. The week will be split into part-time units. A driver’s rental (if there are rentals) will be the equivalent of a half or a third of the clock. You might even be paid by the hour.


The trades so called representative are well aware of where this is heading. They know the only way to increase their status is by having greater control over the workforce, and that means denying the driver the opportunity to compete for his own market. The council on the other hand want to protect their arms length Bus Company, their new Tram system, along with Private Hire interests, increasing the employment pool of the low paid workers.


Read it and weep boys, and remember, I told you so. :wink:


Yeah Skull

Perhaps the guys and gals should realise that rentals are only going one way - that's North.

With their own licence, and their own vehicle, drivers can have a fixed budgetable cost for an E7 over the next five years for around 200 quid a week. They should be comparing this with the uncertainty of rentals over the same period where the pressures for huge increases will exist because of the over supply of Labour, the restricted supply of vehicles in a council inspired shortage, and a group of owners who will capitalise on these factors big time.

As Skull says, you heard it here first. There's no excuse for bubbling in the future because you didn't believe us.

Drivers should be forming group partnerships now to lay the groundwork. Shared legal costs mean lower legal costs.

I'm paving the way, at huge expense, to bring about a recognition of the council's chicanery and double-dealing in the way it deals with taxi licensing. Victory here will mean that anyone ready to put down their £1205 will reap the reward. A mere thank you will suffice by the way.

Any licence application made now can be sisted on the back of my appeal, for a paltry fee. My winning my case would mean those licences would be granted automatically.

This is the time of opportunity. But only for those with the balls to take advantage.

Remeber Salteri et al. Who's laughing now?



=D>

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
jasbar wrote:
Skull wrote:
Come on John T tell me where I've got it wrong?


‘Increasing the number of employees increases employer power’.

In practice the larger the available employment pool, the easier it is to control the work force. This leads to high employment for low paid workers.

This simple fact translates into hike rentals and increased plate premiums against a backdrop of falling customer numbers. The only people not competing are the owners, who, for the most part, depend on increasing driver numbers to fuel their employment status. The end result being more people at the bottom, each a little unit of profit, toiling away into the wee small hours earning more for the owner.

Drivers are a commodity to be traded between owners, nothing more.

The only way this can be achieved is by restricting the choice of employment opportunities for drivers’ - limiting the number of available shifts by artificially capping the number of vehicles. The effect this has is more drivers crammed into fewer shifts, paying more money, while earning less, just to have a job.

With the upwards pressure on driver numbers, the Edinburgh Cab trade is now well on its way to having a part-time labour force. Soon you will have Mon-Thursday day/night drivers - Friday-Sun day/night drivers. The week will be split into part-time units. A driver’s rental (if there are rentals) will be the equivalent of a half or a third of the clock. You might even be paid by the hour.


The trades so called representative are well aware of where this is heading. They know the only way to increase their status is by having greater control over the workforce, and that means denying the driver the opportunity to compete for his own market. The council on the other hand want to protect their arms length Bus Company, their new Tram system, along with Private Hire interests, increasing the employment pool of the low paid workers.


Read it and weep boys, and remember, I told you so. :wink:


Yeah Skull

Perhaps the guys and gals should realise that rentals are only going one way - that's North.

With their own licence, and their own vehicle, drivers can have a fixed budgetable cost for an E7 over the next five years for around 200 quid a week. They should be comparing this with the uncertainty of rentals over the same period where the pressures for huge increases will exist because of the over supply of Labour, the restricted supply of vehicles in a council inspired shortage, and a group of owners who will capitalise on these factors big time.

As Skull says, you heard it here first. There's no excuse for bubbling in the future because you didn't believe us.

Drivers should be forming group partnerships now to lay the groundwork. Shared legal costs mean lower legal costs.

I'm paving the way, at huge expense, to bring about a recognition of the council's chicanery and double-dealing in the way it deals with taxi licensing. Victory here will mean that anyone ready to put down their £1205 will reap the reward. A mere thank you will suffice by the way.

Any licence application made now can be sisted on the back of my appeal, for a paltry fee. My winning my case would mean those licences would be granted automatically.

This is the time of opportunity. But only for those with the balls to take advantage.

Remeber Salteri et al. Who's laughing now?



With so much to lose, how is it you never see any of the trades so called representatives refuting anything we have written on TDO, under their own name?

If we have everything so wrong, where are the Murray Fleming’s, the Ian Colquhoun’s, and the Jim Muldoon’s of the Edinburgh taxi trade?

Oh I know, they don’t read our posts…I don’t think so some how? The fact is they are weak, and scared of the support we have from drivers who can now see the writing is on the wall for their future.

Do nothing and your future of working in a part-time trade run by owners and councillors is assured. Act together, even in small groups, and you will break the dependency you have on the dictates of owners and councillors alike.

Make your own choices, and take your own control…. :wink:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
Just for those trade mandarins out there in Edinburgh who don’t read anything we write. :roll:

Jim and I have reviewed all the information regarding the forthcoming court case with the C.E.C., and let me tell you, we are predicting a Slam-dunk for our side. A bit over confident, well maybe, considering the quality of Sheriff in the 3 Maxblack case but then again, I cannot see the courts allowing the councils conduct over this matter to go unpunished. I think Salteri et al will still be fresh in the minds of the legal establishment.

There’s nothing like watching ex-councillors and corporate services officials being humiliated in the witness box. :twisted:

This time it’s going to be a show stopper. :twisted:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:52 pm 
Yup

There's no way that Wigglesworth can avoid going into the box. Corporate Services will not be taking the flak here.

Remember, Wiggie et al were warned this was going to happen. They made their bed ....

This establishes a new precedent for complaints against the council. No longer can councillors make decisions based on flawed advice from council officials believing that they won't be held to account for them.

I can't believe other councils are going to be too impressed with Edinburgh for taking them down this road.


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 11:51 am
Posts: 412
you two muppets still having a giggle between yourselves when no-one else is taking an interest

you had a case virtually thrown out against you - and yet you say this is exactly what you planned :lol:

come your next hearing your gonna get the same - hee haw

no plates - no deregulisation (sp) - no derestriction


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 10460
LongshanksED wrote:
you two muppets still having a giggle between yourselves when no-one else is taking an interest

you had a case virtually thrown out against you - and yet you say this is exactly what you planned :lol:

come your next hearing your gonna get the same - hee haw

no plates - no deregulisation (sp) - no derestriction


Oh, if you look at the views you will see that this is a very popular thread, especially in Edinburgh...a lot more than fasties even....

I take it your incoherent rant means you are a bit panicked by the forth coming court case and the IPL? :twisted:

If I were you LongshanksED, I would be too, especially with what you have to lose as a result. :lol: :lol:


BTW, did you hear that one of the plates has already been sold? A nice little earner even if I do say so myself. :lol: :lol: :lol:

_________________
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 124 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 594 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group