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You see this is where the argument for restrictions fall on their arse. Fortunatly the only jockey's in my area that would encounter such behaviour actually drive a HC owned by a PH operation, however I must state that the use of the vehicle would only be threatened if you intended to leave their operation ............ in which case it is not really comparible.

You obviously can't.

I would suggest, as I always do, that a survey should be completed and the number of plates reccomended should be made available.

I must tell you that my calls for proper, controlled growth didn't happen in my own area .............. the doors were flung open and our numbers increased by 300% ................... if that were to happen where you are it would mean 507 cabs .................. and do you think that you could make the same money with that many on the streets in your area.
Mind you ................ we have managed to convince the council to temporarily stop the plates and totally review the licensing function as under deregulation it is failing the public.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Which LA is it?

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Do you realise your going to be the subject of multiple posts now?

Some will tell you that your a victim of 'evil plate barons' such as the following;

and some will tell you that locals are best placed to decide taxi policy such as the following;

eithr way, live long and prosper

CC

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And I will ask why one set of licensed drivers think another set should be treated as second class.

And exactly what is wrong with the Jons of this world having their own cabs, without having to pay £40,000 for a piece of plastic?

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i am sure jon will get a taxi thrown in with the piece of plastic

I think that is more to do with drivers thinking they are second class rather than the other section treating them as second class.

Perhaps you could point out other evidence that drivers of HC consider drivers of PH to be second class ........................ even though you support GBC apart from when he claims that minicabs are a greater evil to him that Osma Bin Laden is to President Bush.

In the majority of the country HC work alongside PH ............... so your talk of this massive rift is, in my opinion and experience, sensationalism and exaggeration to substanciate YOUR argument ................... when in fact it is the way YOU VIEW YOURSELF RATHER THAN THE WAY YOU ARE VIEWED BY OTHERS.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

thanks for your replys

as i said previously, my refusal letter had no formal reason for my refusal. my application was heard infront of the committee with me there. there was a vote to refuse my aplication on a show of hands ,7 against and 3 abstained. i have tried to get the minutes of the meeting but i wont get them till the next committee meeting . when this is i have no idea usually in a few months time.

i cant reveal my LA as i have upset a few people and dont want to cause too much of a fuss at the moment. i am not for or against deregulation i just think a council shouldnt close the door on people trying to make a honest living , i did ask that my application have conditions attached . i have no interest in the value of a plate i would gladly give the plate back to the council if i no longer wanted to work in the trade.

£40,000 is the going rate for a plate without a car attached to the sale.

Perhaps, but more than likely it'll approximate to the inherent value of the plastic - ie a "pearl diver" or thereby.

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Leaving aside the numbers question, in the normal course of events I can't really see the potential for widespread driver bankruptcies in the trade.

If some are making a living from the trade, then why not the rest? Presumably because the won't do the work or are suffering from illness or whatever.

And even when some drivers hand their vehicle back it isn't a case of bankruptcy - I think that's just a value-loaded word that's used for scaremongering purposes.

A derestriction scenario might be a different matter, but then that merely proves that the plate "investment" scenario is a pile of poo, and that it's those who posit a plate as an investment that are encouraging people to take dangerous risks.

But assuming the market isn't distorted in this way then it's more likely to be a case of drivers just coming and going rather than widespread bankruptcies.






Somehow I think that even saloon plates wouldn't be worth £40k if jon's LA had "Gatesheaded".



So what's the difference between 100 cabs/200 drivers and 200 cabs/200 drivers?

Which number is the right one?




What does this mean other than being a pile of waffle.

Are you saying that standards in most LAs in the country are deficient because the lack of restricted numbers mean that the LA can't enforce standards?





Well no one has ever disputed that.

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Yes, and who used that phrase?

Only our good old buddy and arch-restrictionist JIMBO

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Yes, as much as £10k a year to RENT a PLATE, not second class at all.




So GBC is the only taxi driver in the country who thinks that way?

What about Frizzie and his "cuckoo in the nest" thesis, for example?




Err, aren't you the one who's always underlining the point about a PH firm running HCs?

So you want to highlight the difference one minute, but pretend it doesn't exist the next

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So if jon's argument falls on its arse in Gateshead, then what about the other 342 LAs?

And what has the fact that the normal Gateshead scenario may be different in a mixed fleet have to do with anything at all?

It has nothing to do with that; it's about the economic power afforded by restricted plate numbers.

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So you're implying that the average HC in Gateshead is taking a quarter of what it did before the doors were flung open?

Somehow that doesn't ring true.

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I'm not so sure about that.

When you restrict vehicles, but not drivers, then you will have a increasing number of drivers wanting work.

The more workers you have wanting work, then the more the bosses have the power.

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IDFIMH

So Lincoln should be swamped with drivers wanting work?

I can tell you the opposite is true.

Strange really. PH with no restrictions on vehicles, has scores of non owner drivers. The Hack side has only two.

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