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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:30 pm 
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I would say that the licensing of rear loading WAV had as great an impact as deregulation of numbers.

I beg to differ.

I would say not more than a dozen or so councils license the Doblo as a taxi WAV.

Not all rear loading WAVs are doblos. Mine is a VW Sharan

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Tell me TDO, what are the propspects of someone having been sold a plate taking legal action to recover the money he's paid for something the seller did not own?

Personally I think the chance of someone getting redress from a mush that sold him a plate is very slim.

But the person might have a case against a council if they gave him some false info about the security of a plate premium. :wink:

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I heard recently that the local LTI dealer offer £1500 trade in where CabDirect offered 3 times that. Seems if you want a deal then the E7 is the one.


Fact : 54 plate tx
Cabdirect £9,000
Patons £15,000

Somebody's telling porky's !!!!!!!


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Sussex wrote:
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I would say that the licensing of rear loading WAV had as great an impact as deregulation of numbers.

I beg to differ.

I would say not more than a dozen or so councils license the Doblo as a taxi WAV.


Does yours ?

B. Lucky :D

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I heard recently that the local LTI dealer offer £1500 trade in where CabDirect offered 3 times that. Seems if you want a deal then the E7 is the one.


Fact : 54 plate tx
Cabdirect £9,000
Patons £15,000

Somebody's telling porky's !!!!!!!


Really?

Thing is there are now two versions.

There is my version, and a version by a homophobe, a racist and a bigot, who has acknowledged this himself.

I'm happy to let others decide for themselves. Are you?

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Well Dusty that GMB person is not me.



I know - I was alluding to someone else 8)

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Tell me TDO, what are the propspects of someone having been sold a plate taking legal action to recover the money he's paid for something the seller did not own?

I realise that what is being sold is the Company, but as we all know the Company is naught without the plate. No plate the Company has no worth. All its value is invested in the plate which can not be owned?

Is this entirely covered by Caveat emptor in legal terms?


Generally speaking I think it would be, but if the seller made some kind of misrepresentation then there might be grounds for redress.

I'm not sure about ownership of the plate - OK, the piece of plastic and the paper license belongs to the LA, but I don't think there's really a problem with selling the right to operate the taxi, which is essentially what's being traded here.

It's basically an intangible asset like a patent, franchise, brand, fishing quota or whatever.

Or in the taxi context a telephone number.

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Does yours ?

Not in a million years. :wink:

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Yes, that’s right gentlemen the game is fecked and it’s only going to get worse. Now tell me LongshanksED, why a driver should not be allowed his own plate to compete in his own market on a level playing field?

I should add; without paying 50K


What do the majority of jockies want Skull.

It seems to me that they are under some illusion that if they get a free plate that they would be able to sell it for £40k.

It has also been suggested that you, Mr Skull, have had a free plate and sold it for £40k ................... I think it would only be fair to expect you to respond to that alleged transaction ................... as claims that the current situation in Edinburgh are so unfair need hi-lighting if they have come from a man who has had a plate and chose to sell it in the same way he is calling his colleagues worse than $hite for doing.

It seems that its one rule for skull and one rule for everyone else ...................... still I see the logic .................. get a plate and sell it ................... buy a vehicle with the proceeds and then call for the plate values to be abolished by giving them out upon request to get one for the vehicle bought with the money obtained from the sale of the plate.

Nice work if you can blag it ........................

B. Lucky :D


The majority of Jockies just want the choice to own or drive without facing diminishing employment prospects, hiked rentals, or ridiculous plate “values”.

I don’t think anyone wants to pay 50K to secure their employment status but they have no other choice.

And yes, I have sold a plate and have no problem with others doing the same if the system permits it, which it does, but that doesn’t make it any less of a con for all concerned.

Challenging the council in court to get a plate and then to sell it on is all part of the system. If the council is abiding by the law the courts won’t grant plates because councils refuse to do so.

You can’t have your cake and eat it as they say….

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And yes, I have sold a plate and have no problem with others doing the same if the system permits it, which it does, but that doesn’t make it any less of a con for all concerned.


You see I have had a plate which I sold ................. for the same amount as I bought it for.

You cannot blame anyone for thinking about or questioning your motivation for getting another plate Skull ................... particularly when you had the opportunity to secure your employment ............... but chose to sell that chance.

If Edinburgh deregulated numbers tomorrow ....................... would you seek the person who bought your employment security and offer some financial reimbursement.

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If Edinburgh deregulated numbers tomorrow ....................... would you seek the person who bought your employment security and offer some financial reimbursement.


I have to say no.

It was the so called trade representatives and the council who created the false plate market in the first place. I only played by their rules. But that doesn’t mean to say I didn’t understand the market. If you chose to sell or buy, as have many others, then that’s fine by me. I didn’t make the market nor is it my responsibility if you get your fingers burnt.

Challenging the council in court then selling the plate on and then doing the same all over again is what the market dictates. If the council are in the right they have nothing to worry about.

The council could delimit the market at anytime and that would suit me fine but paying 50K with councillors holding a financial gun to my head doesn’t.

As the old saying goes; you make your bed you lie in it.

The responsibility lies firmly on the shoulders of the trade representatives and the council.

Not the people who expose the scam for what it is.


BTW, it's the system that forces drivers to pay 50k to secure their employment, not me.

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"This Squarespace account (skull) is no longer available."

why has you space gone awol?


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chipper wrote:
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"This Squarespace account (skull) is no longer available."

why has you space gone awol?



I don't know yet, I'm waiting for the site host to reply to that very question.

My guess is there’s been a complaint.

We didn’t know if using slavery, the Clan and the American civil war as a parody would be acceptable. Although using satire and mimicry is supposed to be within the law.

We are going to run with the idea though. We’re thinking about publishing a Plantation Gazette News Paper. If we can’t get the sight back up and running on squarespace then we will have to host it somewhere else, perhaps on our own server.

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Skull wrote:
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"This Squarespace account (skull) is no longer available."

why has you space gone awol?



I don't know yet, I'm waiting for the site host to reply to that very question.

My guess is there’s been a complaint.

We didn’t know if using slavery, the Clan and the American civil war as a parody would be acceptable. Although using satire and mimicry is supposed to be within the law.

We are going to run with the idea though. We’re thinking about publishing a Plantation Gazette News Paper. If we can’t get the sight back up and running on squarespace then we will have to host it somewhere else, perhaps on our own server.



Just found a new server with free speech written all over it.


Cheap as chips by the way :wink:

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Would you believe it? :roll: The blog host said there were a number of complaints about the site content.

Now someone tell me there isn't a lot of worried slave owners out there :wink:

Here's the bad news, expect a news Letter and a new site in the coming weeks.
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BTW, the unique hits the site got was phenomenal. I wouldn't have believed it. These websites are powerful things. This probably explains why the C.E.C have been trying to shut down the Basa's site.

www.edinburghsucks.com

Some people just don't like the truth :twisted:

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