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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:30 pm 
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So if someone on the rank asks me to take more than I'm allowed, and offers me extra, and I decline and they jump into another car then if I complain then I'm a grass?

The rule is quite simple, and if it's not enforced then the bigger vehicles will be piling a dozen or so in.

Of course, those who accuse others of grassing are usually the type that are always breaking the rules themselves and are usually have no hesitation grassing others when it suits them.


you have twisted this to get round to your own viewpoint,

then come to a disgusting conclusion.

after this case I could make complaints about people I dont like with no evidence and get them off the road.

YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A GRASS

dont judge us all by your own despicable behaviour.


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Still grassers.


What's your view on PH plying for hire, another act rendering insurance invalid?

There are certainly plenty of grassers for this.

Disgusting, isn't it?


different offence twisting again.


i dont see any difference. both acts would invalidate your insurance and go against the conditions of the licence you have been issued by the council.
maybe its just a Plymouth thing, but the majority of drivers here, both HC & PH take a bit of pride in their work and dont like to see a few individuals make us all look bad.
the thing is if one or two drivers get away with it then others will try it on and the public will think its OK.
same thing goes with PH who stop for flaggers, because theres a few who do it the public think we all do it and cant understand why i just driver past waving back....


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If people did not take a stand against idiots like this driver/criminal then why do we need the police as we can do what we want where we want and sod the rest of the country.

For all you MUPPETS saying these two are grasses how about i drive a vehicle with NO INSURANCE and run you and your family of the road and and kill your family would a witness to this be a grass?

ALSO this driver has a reputation for this both BEFORE AND SINCE. He is out for himself and ONLY himself so people without the personal knowledge of the situation should wind your necks in and get a life.


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Funny, I was just thinking about this thread last night :lol:

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I suppose you always take a chance when you put six passengers in a vehicle licensed for five. This driver did his mates out of a job and they didn't like it, I suppose they were quite frustrated after just refusing the job themselves. I don't think many drivers would have gone to the trouble of reporting it, although I'm sure if you had just knocked backed six passengers and someone came along and put them in, it certainly might cross your mind at the time. This guy took a chance and got punished for it, I doubt he will be in such a hurry to do it again, which can only be a good thing.

Whether or not the committee should have placed so much reliance on hearsay evidence is quite another matter and so is the legality of their decision to act like a court of law. Suspension of licenses are meant as a safegaurd to the public but on the other hand they could have revoked his license which would no doubt have given rise to an appeal and one which the council may have well lost. Therefore there are many points raised but at the end of the day in reaching their decision no matter how that was achieved the council has an obligation to protect the public and enforce license regulations and this is probably what they were aiming at in this case.


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So let me get this right, the majority here say that its grassing and that should not be done, it just goes to show the amount of hypocricy there is here as if this was a limo you guys would be up in arms and they should be hung drawn and quartered, but hey its a taxi thats breaking the law so thats fine!!!!! What a complete load of tosh and its good to see that its mainly Plymouth drivers that are willing to stand up against these drivers that break the law, well done to them :D :D

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So let me get this right, the majority here say that its grassing and that should not be done, it just goes to show the amount of hypocricy there is here as if this was a limo you guys would be up in arms and they should be hung drawn and quartered, but hey its a taxi thats breaking the law so thats fine!!!!! What a complete load of tosh and its good to see that its mainly Plymouth drivers that are willing to stand up against these drivers that break the law, well done to them :D :D


I wouldn't grass up a limo,ph, taxi. bus, lorry driver for overloading, It's between them and the authorities.

Anyone who would grass up a driver for taking one or two extra passengers is scum, pure and simple.

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I suppose you always take a chance when you put six passengers in a vehicle licensed for five. This driver did his mates out of a job and they didn't like it, I suppose they were quite frustrated after just refusing the job themselves. I don't think many drivers would have gone to the trouble of reporting it, although I'm sure if you had just knocked backed six passengers and someone came along and put them in, it certainly might cross your mind at the time. This guy took a chance and got punished for it, I doubt he will be in such a hurry to do it again, which can only be a good thing.

Whether or not the committee should have placed so much reliance on hearsay evidence is quite another matter and so is the legality of their decision to act like a court of law. Suspension of licenses are meant as a safegaurd to the public but on the other hand they could have revoked his license which would no doubt have given rise to an appeal and one which the council may have well lost. Therefore there are many points raised but at the end of the day in reaching their decision no matter how that was achieved the council has an obligation to protect the public and enforce license regulations and this is probably what they were aiming at in this case.


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I cannot understand you guys who claim he is a grass, as JD said they have done another driver out of a job.

Or shall I put it another way - that type of behaviour is in effect taking money/earnings from another family, that could be you.

I run a seven seater and I have been offered extra money on numerous occasions to take 8/9 people, and I have also said that they could offer me an extra £100 and I would not take them.

The point is this 1) I will not risk my license 2) I will not do another driver/family out of income.

Grasses - I do not think so!

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I think if he had been the only car present at the rank then we shouldn't curse him that much, but he robbed some of his colleagues right in front of them.

Methinks he was lucky not to get a smack in the mush. :shock:

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Methinks he was lucky not to get a smack in the mush. :shock:

Me too

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So let me get this right, the majority here say that its grassing and that should not be done, it just goes to show the amount of hypocricy there is here as if this was a limo you guys would be up in arms and they should be hung drawn and quartered, but hey its a taxi thats breaking the law so thats fine!!!!! What a complete load of tosh and its good to see that its mainly Plymouth drivers that are willing to stand up against these drivers that break the law, well done to them :D :D


Well I wouldn't judge the current membership from a three-year-old thread - if I'm correct the two main complainants about the grassing were both banned from this forum, albeit for different reasons.

Indeed, with some irony, Nidge was banned for grassing up TDO, only problem was he had his facts wrong :lol:

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So let me get this right, the majority here say that its grassing and that should not be done, it just goes to show the amount of hypocricy there is here as if this was a limo you guys would be up in arms and they should be hung drawn and quartered, but hey its a taxi thats breaking the law so thats fine!!!!! What a complete load of tosh and its good to see that its mainly Plymouth drivers that are willing to stand up against these drivers that break the law, well done to them :D :D


Well I wouldn't judge the current membership from a three-year-old thread - if I'm correct the two main complainants about the grassing were both banned from this forum, albeit for different reasons.

Indeed, with some irony, Nidge was banned for grassing up TDO, only problem was he had his facts wrong :lol:


Indeed i have just looked at the date at the top of the thread ( 2004 ) I see your point :wink:

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By the way, I was being ironic when I said I was thinking about the thread last night - because I actually haven't thought about it for about three years. :lol:

In case anyone hadn't noticed, before yesterday the thread was last contributed to in mid-2004 :shock:

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So let me get this right, the majority here say that its grassing and that should not be done, it just goes to show the amount of hypocricy there is here as if this was a limo you guys would be up in arms and they should be hung drawn and quartered, but hey its a taxi thats breaking the law so thats fine!!!!! What a complete load of tosh and its good to see that its mainly Plymouth drivers that are willing to stand up against these drivers that break the law, well done to them :D :D


I wouldn't grass up a limo,ph, taxi. bus, lorry driver for overloading, It's between them and the authorities.

Anyone who would grass up a driver for taking one or two extra passengers is scum, pure and simple.

Live and let live.


Far easier just to sit in front of your computer and moan about the activity than do something about it.

Become professional and insist everyone else does as you do.

FFS why should you go out and do the job right and then let some ar$sehole F**k your reputation when the press get ahold of the story when the authorities catch them.

B. Lucky :D

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Mr Hawton and Mr Danby both claim all the pedestrians boarded the cab which drove off in the direction of Plymouth city centre.

I wonder if either of these two has ever exceeded the speed limit, or if they declare to the taxman every penny they take?

I expect the answer is they do to the former, and they don't to the latter.

Not condoning wrong doings, but 'he who is without sin'. :shock:


Old topic I know but this is relevant as it concerns Mr Hawton

Well Mr Hawton has taken to threatening people with shooters!!!

Taking 1 person more in your cab is nothing compared to this.

And this from a representative of the PLTA.

How's the old saying go? let he is without sin blah blah.

Back to the original question good chap or grass, grass definately.

http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/displ ... ebarsearch

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A man has appeared before Torbay magistrates after an alleged gun incident on The Willows estate in Torquay last week.Andrew Hawton, 41, and from Plymouth, was charged with trespass with a firearm, possession and causing actual bodily harm.

No plea was entered. He was remanded in custody after his appearance at Torquay court.


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