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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:40 am 
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We have a situation in York, where a hackney driver sold his plate and then had a Malton plate issued to the same car (as Malton is de-restricted)Malton is about 20 miles East of York but in a different licensing area, he still comes into York in a car licensed from a different area and picks up what he claims are pre booked fares, when drivers remonstrated with him he reacted by borrowing a York hackney to work the odd night as he still has a York drivers badge, so the question is can a driver be licensed in two adjoing authorities?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:46 am 
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We have a situation in York, where a hackney driver sold his plate and then had a Malton plate issued to the same car (as Malton is de-restricted)Malton is about 20 miles East of York but in a different licensing area, he still comes into York in a car licensed from a different area and picks up what he claims are pre booked fares, when drivers remonstrated with him he reacted by borrowing a York hackney to work the odd night as he still has a York drivers badge, so the question is can a driver be licensed in two adjoing authorities?


A driver can be licensed in all 343 authorities if he meets the rquirements and I presume so can a vehicle, although no one has ever tried it? What is your beaf exactly?

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It's not my own beaf but drivers are sick of being made fools of when he comes into town in a vehicle that is licensed from another area and picks up work and drops in our area which is illegal surely, then he further takes the mickey by borrowing his friend car which is registered here and flaunts round the town, if you say anything to him he plays the racist card as he is an ethinic minority


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the thinker wrote:
It's not my own beaf but drivers are sick of being made fools of when he comes into town in a vehicle that is licensed from another area and picks up work and drops in our area which is illegal surely, then he further takes the mickey by borrowing his friend car which is registered here and flaunts round the town, if you say anything to him he plays the racist card as he is an ethinic minority


If he is licensed as a hackney carriage driver in two areas then he isn't breaking any law as long as he plies for hire in a vehicle licensed in that particular area.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:49 pm 
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JD wrote:
the thinker wrote:
We have a situation in York, where a hackney driver sold his plate and then had a Malton plate issued to the same car (as Malton is de-restricted)Malton is about 20 miles East of York but in a different licensing area, he still comes into York in a car licensed from a different area and picks up what he claims are pre booked fares, when drivers remonstrated with him he reacted by borrowing a York hackney to work the odd night as he still has a York drivers badge, so the question is can a driver be licensed in two adjoing authorities?


A driver can be licensed in all 343 authorities if he meets the rquirements and I presume so can a vehicle, although no one has ever tried it? What is your beaf exactly?

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What is your beaf exactly? This just shows what a ****** you are JD. If you don't know his "beaf!?! is, then I doubt you even know your arse from your elbow :roll:

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Thats a little harsh isn't it! The fact that the guy was doing nothing illegal seems to be hiding what the true beef was about.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:51 pm 
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so the question is can a driver be licensed in two adjoing authorities?

Yes, and to be honest I can't see why they shouldn't be. :-k

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the thinker wrote:
We have a situation in York, where a hackney driver sold his plate and then had a Malton plate issued to the same car (as Malton is de-restricted)Malton is about 20 miles East of York but in a different licensing area, he still comes into York in a car licensed from a different area and picks up what he claims are pre booked fares, when drivers remonstrated with him he reacted by borrowing a York hackney to work the odd night as he still has a York drivers badge, so the question is can a driver be licensed in two adjoing authorities?


A driver can be licensed in all 343 authorities if he meets the requirements and I presume so can a vehicle, although no one has ever tried it? What is your beef exactly?

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What is your beaf exactly? This just shows what a ****** you are JD. If you don't know his "beaf!?! is, then I doubt you even know your arse from your elbow :roll:


I see, lol. Considering your intervention is an object lesson in eloquence Perhaps you can explain to us all what his beef is about, considering you appear to have all the answers?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:40 pm 
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the thinker wrote:
We have a situation in York, where a hackney driver sold his plate and then had a Malton plate issued to the same car (as Malton is de-restricted)Malton is about 20 miles East of York but in a different licensing area, he still comes into York in a car licensed from a different area and picks up what he claims are pre booked fares.


So far he has done nothing illegal unless he is caught picking up non pre- booked fares, in which case that would have to be proved.

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when drivers remonstrated with him he reacted by borrowing a York hackney


So these York hackneys found this driver guilty of plying for hire and duly gave him a piece of their mind?

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to work the odd night as he still has a York drivers badge, so the question is can a driver be licensed in two adjoining authorities?


So what is illegal about a licensed York hackney driver working a York hackney carriage? Don't you do the same?

Why not ask yourself the question, "can you as a York hackney carriage driver obtain a hackney carriage drivers license in any other authority if you meet the required standard"? You will then have answered your own question.

If you don't know the answer to that question after being a cab driver for how many years, then I think most people on here, if not all, will be highly surprised.

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Thats a little harsh isn't it! The fact that the guy was doing nothing illegal seems to be hiding what the true beef was about.

How do you work out he is doing nothing illegal, he comes into York in a Hackney whis is licensed in Ryedale which is not this area, sits in busy locations and picks up passengers, if they were pre booked and he was taking them back to Ryedale no problem but he drops in our area and then returns for more,


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the thinker wrote:
grandad wrote:
Thats a little harsh isn't it! The fact that the guy was doing nothing illegal seems to be hiding what the true beef was about.

How do you work out he is doing nothing illegal, he comes into York in a Hackney whis is licensed in Ryedale which is not this area, sits in busy locations and picks up passengers, if they were pre booked and he was taking them back to Ryedale no problem but he drops in our area and then returns for more,

We have a similar problem here.
He is allowed to pick up pre-booked hires in your area and take them anywhere they want to go, including the same area.
He is not allowed to pick up unbooked hires outside his own area at anytime.
I take it you suspect this is what he is doing?
If so, proving it is the hard bit.

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How do you work out he is doing nothing illegal, he comes into York in a Hackney whis is licensed in Ryedale which is not this area, sits in busy locations and picks up passengers, if they were pre booked and he was taking them back to Ryedale no problem but he drops in our area and then returns for more,

Of course if he is touting, then he can be done for that, if he is plying for hire, then he can be done for that, and if he is picking up illegally ditto, but it's for your council to catch him out.

And TBH it wont be that hard to do. :wink:

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the thinker wrote:
grandad wrote:
Thats a little harsh isn't it! The fact that the guy was doing nothing illegal seems to be hiding what the true beef was about.

How do you work out he is doing nothing illegal, he comes into York in a Hackney whis is licensed in Ryedale which is not this area, sits in busy locations and picks up passengers, if they were pre booked and he was taking them back to Ryedale no problem but he drops in our area and then returns for more,


What you are suggesting is commonplace throughout the country and every hackney carriage and private hire driver who subscribes to this forum sees it every weekend so there is nothing unique in your observations but your question wasn't about plying for hire it centred on whether a person can obtain a license in more than one licensing authority and the fact is you already knew the answer to that question, therefore what was the point in asking it?

If you want to start yet another thread on illegal plying for hire then by all means do so but I don't see any point in restricting it to a person who you suspect as acting illegally but has so far not been charged with any offence?

We know the practice of illegal plying for hire is widespread but it is up to the local licensing authority to police these matters.

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[quote="JD
your question wasn't about plying for hire it centred on whether a person can obtain a license in more than one licensing authority and the fact is you already knew the answer to that question, therefore what was the point in asking it?


JD[/quote]

what have I done to upset you, I did not know the answer at all otherwise I would not have asked the question, sorry to have bothered you, perhaps I should have asked Wayne instead at least he was civil.


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what have I done to upset you, I did not know the answer at all otherwise I would not have asked the question, sorry to have bothered you, perhaps I should have asked Wayne instead at least he was civil.


You've haven't upset me at all, if you haven't noticed I'm just stating the obvious.

Are you really asking us to believe that you didn't know you could obtain a license in any area of the United Kingdom especially considering the fact that you are a member of a Taxi association and a man blessed with more than his fare share of common sense. You raised the ogre of the out of town hackney carriage driver plying for hire in this thread in April 2006 and it was at that time debated to some extent.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/pos ... te&p=46325

Reading your past comments in other threads it would appear you like to portray an understanding of the laws of the taxi trade yet when it suits you, such is the case in point, you seek answers to questions that you already know.

I don't for one minute believe you didn't know you could obtain a license in more than one area and I doubt anyone else reading this thread believes it either.

Thats my criticism of the poster based on all the facts.

Perhaps you are disguise for Wayne Casey on one of his many trolling exercises.

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