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Fully licensed, fully vetted, well apart from the 30,000 that aren't of course.

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Grandad,

Which is why members of licensed taxi/PH trade want to out the self-drive scam, as it will attract those 30,000. Maybe it already has.

That said I'm pretty well sure the 30,000 isn't 30,000.

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IDFIMH

Where did you make up this figure from?

And aren't the drivers and cars better categorised with the limo trade, since at least the taxis you're comparing them to are licensed, whereas that's not necassarily the case with the limos.

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Assuming it is individuals who break the law and not insurance policies then having a policy inspected by any organisation or body is neither here nor there.

If a policy says no hire or reward then it means no hire or reward and your policy definitely states no hire or reward, does it not?

All you have to do now is convince a court of law that your activity which entices members of the public to hire a vehicle that they are not licensed to drive, is not one of hire or reward? You also have to convince a court of law that you as the vehicle owner or the representative, are not supplying a driver, either directly or indirectly, as an agent or otherwise?

As I said, your contract is meaningless, the acid test is how a court of law interprets the nature of your business and believe me that is all that matters and it will be up to you and not the prosecution to convince the courts of the legality of your operation in respect of hire or reward?



Well put it this way, every skirmish through the courts undertaken on advice from TDO has resulted in victory so I presume that’s not a bad track record and it might give you a little cause for concern should we turn our talents to the nature of the unlawful licensing activities of some minibus operators?



Whatever the point was, it doesn't concern me but it’s noticeable that a great many minibus operators are removing eight seats in order to license their vehicles as private because of the strict working time directive?

Regards

JD

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I think the point here is that sooner or later the working time directive may be forced on taxis and private hire.

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Grandad,

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/sit ... 350039.pdf

There is at present a case ongoing with the ECJ and if its lost then this document CAN and probably will be INTEREPRETED to incorporate Taxis.

Believe me its only a matter of time.

First of all it was only meant for HGV,s etc then came BUSES then Minibuses then Vans , do you seriously think that a few Uk MP,s can fight off the MIGHT of EURO regluation!

Wake up!

As i said , you waste your time trying to pull holes in what we do when it could be better spent doing something for the Taxi industry.

You obviously still dont have all the correct facts about the self drive system as you constantly assume where you dont know facts, not all 16 seater ops are dubious, the majority operate correctly as is possible and we are 2 years into developing a proper licensing system for all limos, it does,nt matter what 8 seater boys or 16 seater boys want ,its way beyond that now. You do what you must, i will be first to post the results of the ECJ case when it concludes and i suspect the outcome will not be favourable to your profession.

Your not the only industry with people who know the right people, some of us also have influence


I spend upto 20 hours a week studying these documents and proposed ammendments etc , anything that happens within the UK is no longer important. Its all being superceded by this Eurotrash since a few weeks ago when TB signed all our rights away to Europe. It was done very discreetly and a vote on Europe is a thing of the past , we,re in like or lump it so start studying before it all gets to far infront of you , catching up wont be possible. Europe fires new ammendments out every week and its these ammendments that change the whole context of what is first legislated.

And your worried about a few limos

I can see you like a tipple, its amazing what comes out of ones mouth when its full of the hard stuff.



lol good, please let us know when all the member states change their mind about exempting cabs from the WTD.

Regards

JD

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You don't think this will come then. Like stopping people from smoking in public places. That will never happen will it.

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Grandad,

And you know what, I don't mind one little bit.

Not saying I speak for all taxi/PH drivers, in fact I suspect I'm in the minority.

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IDFIMH

Rest assured Mr S6, members of the taxi/PH trade are well aware of everything that's coming, and MPs/ministers/DfT are well aware of the pain they can gain from the taxi/PH trade.

Type approval is already here for the taxi/PH trade, the deadline is 2009, we all know about it and it changes nothing for the worst. But does help improve some motors and stops the weird ones getting licensed.

As for all taxi/PH vehicles being wheelchair accessible, well the latest report from the EU says a mixed fleet is a must.

Back to the weird vehicles issues, I look forward to the many weird limos meeting 'type approval'.

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IDFIMH

Now its getting interesting

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Legal and proud

Loads a love from BERTIE !!

I don't profess to know what might happen and neither should you or anyone else unless you or they have a direct line to the thinking of all EU cabinet ministers? The only thing I know is that there is no agenda for changing the current working time exemption in respect of Cab drivers.

TDO discussed the proposals and consultative document put out by the DfT in 2004 and we also highlighted the changes when the DfT published the new conditions of the 2002 WTD on their website.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/freight/road/ ... meguidance

Any changes to the status of self employed Taxi drivers is to be considered and sanctioned in 2007 and so far I haven't read or been informed of any proposed changes, have you?

Regards

JD

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I for one have no problem with this. Far to many drivers around here driving silly hours (I know of one who does over 100 hours a week, FFS). If everyone works fewer hours, there will be more work for everyone when they are out. The customer numbers will not drop, only the number of cabs plying at any given time.

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Mr S6 conversion specialist.

Summons to appear at Manchester Magistrates court, Crown Square Manchester to answer the charge laid before this court that on the 28th Day of August 2007 you did allow to be used on a road called [TDO ROAD], a certain public service vehicle, namely [registration number XYZ 123] for the purpose of carrying passengers for hire or reward, in respect of which you did not have a public service vehicle operator's licence granted under the Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981, Pt II, contrary to the Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981, s12(1) and (5).
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Now you have lost the plot MR JD

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Loads a love from BERTIE !!