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the answer is at the bottom of p24

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Well thats why we always acknowledge the Newspaper providing the article, if it does indeed belong to them? I don't see any such acknowledgment in Taxi talk magazine do you?

However thats not the point. To us its old news and apart from the Editorials its practically worthless as far as up to date news goes.

Regards

JD

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I think the point is.. that they have a circulation of 20 or 30,000 or more that like to read it, not just the 10 or so on here,

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

So which is it then, 30,000 or 20

Problem is, thousands may get it, but I suspect only 20 read it.



Come on now, it must be at least a dozen

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I was under the impression they had a circulation of around 18,000 but never the less it cannot compare with the six thousand visitors we get each week.

Weekly Total last 7 days.

Page Loads 34,268

Unique Visitors 6,150

First Time Visitors 4,827


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Is the price dropping yet?

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Here’s a story you might learn from Trevor?

I picked up a couple one night who owned a successful Antiques Business in Leith. They made the point of lighting up their cigarettes in the back of my taxi regardless of the No Smoking sign. I told them throw their cigarettes out the window or walk. Their answer was to tell me who they were and that they could buy and sell me and that as they were paying for the taxi it was up to them if they wanted to smoke.

I told them that having cash didn’t give them class or make them intelligent, only ignorant. I then said that trash with cash doesn’t get another foot in my taxi and kicked them out on the street.

If you could have bottle the shock on their faces you could have sold it and made a fortune.

Now do yourself a favour Trevor, stop believing that by having a few taxis or a few quid makes you some sort of taxi trade guru. You are only making yourself look like a fecking as*hole. The minions from your burgh are not reading these posts and laughing with you, they are laughing at you.

If you are going to be a numpty then you need cash and class to carry it off.

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Worse than that they aren't elling

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Makes sense. Why buy what you could get for sod all very soon?

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Skull..Am I supposed to bite, I see you're telling everyone exactly how hard a man you are , very impressive , how old were they 60..70.. heard it many times before and I expect so has everyone else, do you still carry a spare pair of undies with you when go out....

Ps. how is the bullshitt business going , you should be making a mint, with your never-ending supply.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

give up




well JD would you not agree that this whole fight is about stopping the sale of plates and people racking up huge loans???

so if you can JD answer me this - if you win your right to have a plate then do a u turn and use the system you hate to make cash what could be said about you and dont say you were playing them at there own game or rules as thats just not a aceptiable answer.



yip JD winning and then selling is double standards after telling everyone that the 40k plate values is wrong.



yes



Bingo as they should not ever have been for sale in the first place



Tosh



if they were not restricted we would not be having this debate would we so give the moral judgement line a rest JD



tosh we should all have the right to get a plate without the price tag.



wrong


JD you are good with words much better than iam and you have tried to be a wee bit to smart and trying to make me look stupid when (here we go again) i have only said that i do not agree with someone fighting a case for a plate as they think that it wrong to pay 40k for a plate .
but when they get there plate they sell it on now thats someone with "no morals" and is "double standards" so i think that about sums it up

thanks for the debate

Chips

Skull the point iam making is if you fight to change the system as it is right now why sell the plate.

when you get your plate will you sell it??

Your comments were aimed at the Salteri's and I doubt very much that what they had in mind when they applied for a license was to change the system. The system can hardly be called the system because at the end of the day it is only a policy. You can apply for a plate anytime you like and a council cannot refuse you unless they can prove there is no unmet demand. What happened here is that the council were the architect of their own downfall because they knew the law yet they chose to ignore it.

If they want to retain a policy of control then they know what they have to do, you are making a moral judgment that anyone intending to sell a license shouldn't apply. You obviously believe there are two types of owners, those that buy a plate and those that get one issued free.

Your opinion is that those who buy a plate can sell it any time they like for a profit or loss and those that get one issued free should keep it for the rest of their life. If you don't believe they should keep it for the rest of their life then perhaps you can tell me how long they have to keep it before they can sell it?

What is the time frame of your moral judgment before a license can be sold, is it, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6, years or perhaps even longer?

What’s the difference in selling a free plate within two weeks of obtaining it, or two years after? It still gets sold either way?

I can see where you are coming from and many people on here share your conviction but I don't believe in the moralistic argument that people shouldn't apply for licenses if they intend to sell them. If a council restricts licenses then it is they who are creating the market, they realise this yet in your book that is immoral. So we have two immoral acts taking place the council for restricting licenses which therefore creates a market for the scarcity of license plates and the person who has the audacity to apply for a license and sell it, if granted?

It would seem the perfect world as far as you and your morals are concerned is to issue no licenses whatsoever, or issue a set number of licenses each year to people who won't sell them, or completely remove restrictions?

Somewhere in this maze of morals lies the law and at the end of the day it is the law that always has the final say, either rightly or wrongly, depending on which side of the fence you sit on? Therefore no matter how much we might care to moralise about the rights and wrongs of selling licenses, the law is all that counts.

Ask yourself this.

Is it lawful to apply for a license?
Is lawful to transfer a license?

If the answer is yes then do we really have the right to moralise about something that is perfectly lawful?

Regards

JD

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Chipper, the system of buying or selling plates starts with the driver being coerced into buying the plate in the first place. The system plays on the insecurity of the driver’s employment status, forcing him to buy in if he wants job security for his family.

The council are well aware of how their system works.

The only way a driver can secure his employment is to gain access to the labour pool through the purchase of a licence plate. The plate has no intrinsic value. The plate is only relevant insofar as it gives access to the labour pool. No labour pool, no plate value.

If you can sell the plate and make 50K it’s a smart move, as long as the council intends to keep the cap on numbers. You then reapply and do it all over again, until the council cave in. Your enemy pays for their own defeat.

As always money is the backbone of any campaign, just try wining without it.

I would buy and sell until the cows come home.

There is no moral issue here chipper, only winners and losers. It’s a War. You are not trying to convince the council of the truth, they already know the truth.

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Trevor, I know about physical and mental pain and I make it a point never to worry about what I can’t control. If someone out their wants to kick my head then so be it, but spare me the threats of what might happen. I have never been hard to find and I don’t pretend to be the hardest guy on the planet. There is always someone younger and faster.

I accept whatever my fait may be, I don’t run from it. There are always consequences to any action, some good, and some bad. That’s life.

That okay with big fish....

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