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Ians wrote thanks for that but i just get the lawyers in as they know the answers better than anyone

But not better than a Union's lawyers

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sorry but i am not a union man !!


The old story.....divide and rule.
Ask yourself ..."does the LO quake in their boots when taking on you and your lawyer".

Now ask "would the LO quake in their boots at taking on the GMB?"

This is only to try and help, you understand.

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The benefit "Allo Allo" is political influence more than legal clout. (although thats always available)

Deselection is a politicians biggest fear, and if a person wanted to make a difference, joining the union and the Labour Party, along with a number of mates, will influence the vote when selecting candidates for an election.

B. Lucky :D

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thanks for that but i just get the lawyers in as they know the answers better than anyone

From my experience you can count the number of lawyers who know anything about the taxi/PH trade on the toes of a wooden leg. :wink:

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thanks for that but i just get the lawyers in as they know the answers better than anyone

sorry but i am not a union man !!


ians,

Maybe they just see the possible cost implications to your suggestions should they refuse BEFORE they consider the merits of your suggestions.

B. Lucky :D


sorry GA went to make comment on you reply and deleted it by mistake !!

but you suggested buy jioning the union along with mates could influence their decisions ! or something very similar to that

well i find that to much influence goes on in councils and maybe unions by pals and associates pulling strings all i want is whats right.

i find that what you suggest is sometime sth eroot of the problem within councils trying to win political blows not service the people and industry they are there to represent even if it does go agianst there personl feelings

prime example of that a polish driver holding three badges from plymouth Eden and berwick was given the run around for several months before the council said he was not fit a proper ! when that was investigated they then asked the officers to look into all 28 EU countrys in how they conduct their criminal record checks before they would allow such drivers !

wasnt that a play for time as the officers have not got the tiime to do it !

anyway sussex my solicitor has battled with the councils over cross border high and other things for me since 1997 and i dont think there is much he doesnt know about the councils and their methods of working as well as taxi case law


our barrister was as high as Mrs Blair so th council know i wont skimp on my representation if they want to fight

other questions while i am on !! GA are you a pal of Mr T and if so in what way

i just like to know who is who here so i know who exactly i am talking to especially when your local chaps


again sorry for messing up you comments a little, if you can please put it write for readers to get the correct comments


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anyway, my solicitor has battled with the councils over cross border high and other things for me since 1997 and i dont think there is much he doesnt know about the councils and their methods of working as well as taxi case law


Does this not tell you something, if you are still disatisfied with the decisions of the council?

Why don't you try another tack?

Join the GMB, see what happens, if you don't like it you can always leave.


Of course another alternative is to work with the LO and persuade rather than confront.

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anyway, my solicitor has battled with the councils over cross border high and other things for me since 1997 and i dont think there is much he doesnt know about the councils and their methods of working as well as taxi case law


Does this not tell you something, if you are still disatisfied with the decisions of the council?

Why don't you try another tack?

Join the GMB, see what happens, if you don't like it you can always leave.


Of course another alternative is to work with the LO and persuade rather than confront.


sorry mate but i have seen what the GMB has done for me recently !! kindly told me i have to pay all my staff more bloody holiday pay, in their fight for legislation change !!

its nice of these people to just tell us what we have to do or else !! they dont have to find the money if they did they wont be doing it.

what we have now is a state full of soft arses who need more breaks and more holidays at someone elses costs.

well they "didnt stop for breaks in the war" and holidays is out the question until the job is done !

and if their not getting holiday they are complaining about stress !

STRESS is a weak mans excuse he just carnt cope !

it gets me how enthosiastic workers or owners of businesses dont get ill like workers we must have different genetic make up ???? or are we tuffer people


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it gets me how enthosiastic workers or owners of businesses dont get ill like workers we must have different genetic make up ???? or are we tuffer people
They must have made them different in the dark ages. :lol: :lol: :lol: Or maybe the better staff are working for employers with a better attitude. If you pay peanuts, don't be surprised if you get monkeys 8)

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our barrister was as high as Mrs Blair so th council know i wont skimp on my representation if they want to fight

But did she win? 8-[

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it gets me how enthosiastic workers or owners of businesses dont get ill like workers we must have different genetic make up ???? or are we tuffer people
They must have made them different in the dark ages. :lol: :lol: :lol: Or maybe the better staff are working for employers with a better attitude. If you pay peanuts, don't be surprised if you get monkeys 8)


you are either suggesting i may not be a good employer and that i may also pay peanuts !!

or are you suggesting that the less capable staf become more prown to sickness


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our barrister was as high as Mrs Blair so th council know i wont skimp on my representation if they want to fight

But did she win? 8-[


we lost in 2001 with the private hire cross border but won the following year with the hackney cross border situation

this second win has sat in our draw until the release of the berwick situation late 2006 after a refusal for our local council badge a polish driver who already held three badges from districts around the country.

we tried to confince them he was fit and proper for several months, after which we then used the ability to licence him and car as a hackney from another authority to be operated as a private hire in a second authority.

thus the trouble began !!


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thus the trouble began !!

Well at least you never have a dull moment. :roll:

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ians wrote:
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it gets me how enthosiastic workers or owners of businesses dont get ill like workers we must have different genetic make up ???? or are we tuffer people
They must have made them different in the dark ages. :lol: :lol: :lol: Or maybe the better staff are working for employers with a better attitude. If you pay peanuts, don't be surprised if you get monkeys 8)


you are either suggesting i may not be a good employer and that i may also pay peanuts !!

or are you suggesting that the less capable staf become more prown to sickness
I don't need to suggest anything, but if the cap fits wear it.
I am saying that the best staff go where the pay and conditions are best.
Why work for someone who pays minimum wage, no sick pay and no holidays if you can get a job elsewhere? If your rant about stress is typical of your attitude towards employees then your man management skills defo need some work.
Many people suffer from stress, not just employees. It happens to the self employed, people who run businesses both large and small, as well as those who don't work.
It is not a matter of toughness or lazyness as you seem to think.
If you want enthusiastic and motivated staff, you could try giving them a reason to feel enthusiastic and motivated.
Work or get fired is a poor substitute.

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gusmac wrote:
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it gets me how enthosiastic workers or owners of businesses dont get ill like workers we must have different genetic make up ???? or are we tuffer people
They must have made them different in the dark ages. :lol: :lol: :lol: Or maybe the better staff are working for employers with a better attitude. If you pay peanuts, don't be surprised if you get monkeys 8)


you are either suggesting i may not be a good employer and that i may also pay peanuts !!

or are you suggesting that the less capable staf become more prown to sickness
I don't need to suggest anything, but if the cap fits wear it.
I am saying that the best staff go where the pay and conditions are best.
Why work for someone who pays minimum wage, no sick pay and no holidays if you can get a job elsewhere? If your rant about stress is typical of your attitude towards employees then your man management skills defo need some work.
Many people suffer from stress, not just employees. It happens to the self employed, people who run businesses both large and small, as well as those who don't work.
It is not a matter of toughness or lazyness as you seem to think.
If you want enthusiastic and motivated staff, you could try giving them a reason to feel enthusiastic and motivated.
Work or get fired is a poor substitute.


you speak like a man that has much experience in running a large business so i will bow to your recomendations

my humble apologies !


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Many people suffer from stress, not just employees. It happens to the self employed, people who run businesses both large and small, as well as those who don't work.
I used to think i was suffering from stress after the first couple of years of being a taxidriver ..........but i decided that i had two options and decided to take the best one and i am still here 18 years later and have no regrets.

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Many people suffer from stress, not just employees. It happens to the self employed, people who run businesses both large and small, as well as those who don't work.
I used to think i was suffering from stress after the first couple of years of being a taxidriver ..........but i decided that i had two options and decided to take the best one and i am still here 18 years later and have no regrets.
I'm glad you found a way to deal with your stress. I know of many others who chose the opposite path. A good decision for some and not for others.

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