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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:16 pm 
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Will remove all posts I have made in due course


Oh no you won't [-(

You put them into the public domain, so in the public domain they'll stay.

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Unless admin will be good enough to delete all posts and remove all my details from your database.


So you think we're going to spend ages looking for your hundred-odd posts posts to delete them? ](*,)


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And of course remove my membership


His membership has been deactivated.


Does the facilty to edit your posts not allow you to remove the content, in part or whole.

Maybe the owners of this site should consider the possible implications of having such a facility, particularly when you understand that the posts were removed by the member using the "edit post" facility yet were re-entered into the forum by the administrators.

The database, members should know, cannot be used to re-instate a post deleted using this facility. The only way it can be done is re-booting the forum IN WHOLE from a point in time on the database when the posts were live. Thus removing all site activity between the time the database was saved and the time that database was re-instated.

In short, the admin of this site can, without leaving a visible trace or record, add content or remove content from any post made on this forum.

B. warned :evil:

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In short, the admin of this site can, without leaving a visible trace or record, add content or remove content from any post made on this forum.

Yes and every member of this forum has clicked this to join the forum.

While the administrators and moderators of this forum will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every message. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence will not be held liable.

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In short, the admin of this site can, without leaving a visible trace or record, add content or remove content from any post made on this forum.

Yes and every member of this forum has clicked this to join the forum.

While the administrators and moderators of this forum will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every message. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence will not be held liable.

You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed). The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit. As a user you agree to any information you have entered above being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent the webmaster, administrator and moderators cannot be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised.

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I think the whole world understands that the admin can EDIT OR DELETE POSTS but no-where in that quote from the agreement does it state that the admin reserve the right to re-instate material deleted by the poster.

The right is reserved for information to be stored on a database ............. but you know, that I know that uploading a database reinstates the content of the whole site at the time the database was saved.

My point is, that the only way "taxis" posts could have re-appeared is if a member with admin access was able to check the database and then re-type the content into the original post text box, under the same username as the original poster ............ without leaving a visible trace that the post had been edited, as we all know that when a post is edited by the original poster a note is added to the post advising other members that the post has been edited since orginally posted.

B. Lucky :D

as you can see below.

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It should also be pointed out that the facility to edit posts is actually to edit/remove posts.

If you do not wish members to remove posts then that option should be removed from the software by checking the appropriate box.

While the facilty remains enabled, and the option to remove a post is available, any member taking such action should have that action respected by the admin of the site.

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My point is, that the only way "taxis" posts could have re-appeared is if a member with admin access was able to check the database and then re-type the content into the original post text box, under the same username as the original poster ............ without leaving a visible trace that the post had been edited, as we all know that when a post is edited by the original poster a note is added to the post advising other members that the post has been edited since orginally posted.

If the stuff is still there, then it's still there.

Maybe someone did edit a few quotes from a post where someone had quoted what the big baby said.

But the words are the words of the big baby, and if either he or you don't like it, then don't read it. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
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My point is, that the only way "taxis" posts could have re-appeared is if a member with admin access was able to check the database and then re-type the content into the original post text box, under the same username as the original poster ............ without leaving a visible trace that the post had been edited, as we all know that when a post is edited by the original poster a note is added to the post advising other members that the post has been edited since orginally posted.

If the stuff is still there, then it's still there.

Maybe someone did edit a few quotes from a post where someone had quoted what the big baby said.

But the words are the words of the big baby, and if either he or you don't like it, then don't read it. :wink:


But if they are the words of a member .............. and you have the facility for that member to remove posts ............. surely you should respect that members right to remove the post.

If by doing so the thread becomes impossible to follow then your terms and conditions allow you to either lock or remove the entire thread ................. meaning no-one has to read it.

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GA wrote:

While the facilty remains enabled, and the option to remove a post is available, any member taking such action should have that action respected by the admin of the site.



Well the facitlity has been disabled for mr taxis. :D

It should be obvious that the facilty is there to allow people to make reasonable amendments, not to undertake wholescale deletions when people take the huff - why would the facility be left in place if it was for the latter?

Mr taxis abused the facitlity, thus it has been removed.

By the way, no recourse was made to the database for post reinstatement - I understand that was done via other people's quotes.

But it's a good idea GA, we might make use of that yet :D

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While the facilty remains enabled, and the option to remove a post is available, any member taking such action should have that action respected by the admin of the site.



Well the facitlity has been disabled for mr taxis. :D

It should be obvious that the facilty is there to allow people to make reasonable amendments, not to undertake wholescale deletions when people take the huff - why would the facility be left in place if it was for the latter?

Mr taxis abused the facitlity, thus it has been removed.

By the way, no recourse was made to the database for post reinstatement - I understand that was done via other people's quotes.

But it's a good idea GA, we might make use of that yet :D


Can I just ask .......... where it states within your terms and conditions, that a member is restricted in the use of the facilities afforded to them by the administration of the forum.

I think its strange that you'd consider using a facility NAMED add/remove post to constitute abuse when a post is removed. Surely it would only be abuse if the facility was altered from original specification to allow other peoples posts to be removed.

Should this not identify a shortcoming in your application of the software .............. which allows you to set the board so that only people with admin log-ins to alter or delete posts.

B. Lucky :D

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Yawn!

What would be the point of a facility that allows people to destroy the threads by deleting them when they throw a tantrum?

The purpose of the facility should be obvious - to make reasonable amendments.

Actually, if it was up to me the facility wouldn't exist, but that's another debate. :roll:

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Seems like someones trying a bit sabotage to this site :-k

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Seems like someones trying a bit sabotage to this site :-k

Exactly Mr badger. =D>

And cos he failed so badly he has rung up his mate to ask him to do the dirty work for him. [-X

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Sorry ............. post removed.

:D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol:

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Yawn!

What would be the point of a facility that allows people to destroy the threads by deleting them when they throw a tantrum?

The purpose of the facility should be obvious - to make reasonable amendments.

Actually, if it was up to me the facility wouldn't exist, but that's another debate. :roll:


So your suggesting that the words REMOVE POST obviously mean remove part of a post or make ammendments :?

I don't understand why you'd suggest that removing the facility or option is another debate when it is the very point that is under discussion.

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Are we taking about "taxis" or deleting posts in general?

If it's "taxis" then I'm sorry, he has behaved like a complete tit.

    1. He acted dishonestly by "borrowing" site content and passing it off as his own.
    2. He further acted dishonestly by denying he had done it and refusing to acknowledge the source.
    3. He then made himself look childish by his "I'm not playing anymore" attitude and trying to delete all of his posts.


I support TDO's actions on this. If you really are his friend GA, you should phone him and tell him to grow up. Attempting to defend his behavior just makes you look silly as well.

As for deleting posts in general, I think that's a subject for another thread as it detracts from this one.

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Whilst I understand a bigger picture for the admin to consider ............... they are not telling us what he did other than to use the same websites to link to as TDO does .................... and then they close the door to the bloke and stop him from having the opportunity to respond.

All I want to know is .................... what else other than the links is TDO suggesting "taxis" "stole"?

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