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So you take bookings from people in the street and you don't know that such a practice is unlawfull.



Perhaps you can define rude in this particular scenario considering you said he didn't speak to you or any of your colleagues?



How would you know who he spoke to or who he didn't speak to? I suppose you said to yourself theres a black cab driver I'll watch him? From what I understand the first time anyone new he was there was when he started taking pics. You didn't see him talking to passengers because you weren't expecting it, I don't suppose you saw him speak to a Marshal either and ask him what the setup was for getting a taxi. And I don't suppose you heard the Marshall explain that all he had to do was join the queue. I don't suppose you were concentrating on the individual when he asked the Marshal if it was a requirement to pre book the vehicle first and I don't suppose you heard the Marshal answer no.

Considering you weren't aware of this guys presence before he started snapping away I'm wondering how you were in a position to know who he did or didn't speak to, or even have an inkling of how long he was there, or how many of his associates were also in the queue?



Yes we can see what you mean.



The person didn't need to speak to you to see how it worked, he was quite capable of seeing how the operation worked with his own eyes.



And where was your booking point? Those in the queue hadn't booked a vehicle and even if they had, taking a booking from the street is unlawfull



You probably don't realise it but you have just given a near perfect description of Touting for custom off the street.



The markings actually say, "loading and Taxis only", the disabled bay is next door. So lets keep it factual shall we?



Ah? Mr meek no doubt.



Well I sincerely hope that is the case because I could do with a refresher course in licensing law.



There is nothing so sad as those who are not blind yet cannot see.



I'm afraid the law has indicated that the mere presence of making oneself available for hire is enough to be convicted of touting. An agent is an agent no matter who benefits from the illegal activity. The mere presence of a private hire driver or his agent in a public place is enough to convict for illegal plying for hire, or in the case of an agent, touting. I'm afraid there need not be an approach of any kind but I suppose you know that already. All you have to say if someone approaches you is yes and you have committed a crime by offering your services or the services of another. Rather simple isn't it.

Regards

JD

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That’s a very factual and in depth report you've compiled. It always amazes me as to how individuals with little knowledge of the law interpret it to their benefit, and set up pseudo taxi ranks under the guise of 'helping the public' to get away from these nasty legitimate Licensed Taxi's.

Of course lining their own greedy pockets through illegal activity wouldn’t come into it.

Has anyone considered a written complaint (JD's report attached) to the Chief Constable of the GMP?

They would have to come back with an answer?

Manchester city council may ignore the Licensed Taxi trade, but would they ignore the Police if they told them they were wrong?

As a foot note, what is it about PH representatives and full stops?

I wouldn't mind betting that it was the police that approached the council at one of their liason meetings and said we have a problem clearing the streets of punters at night because there are not enough taxis, here is our solution to the problem. And the licensing committee replied, that is an excellent idea and that was that.

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Grandad,

sounds about right pops !

I took a rare Saturday night off to go to Walthamstow Dogs last weekend. As we left there was a sign saying "Queue here for Taxi's" and a line of Minicabs.

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There's no excuse for animal abuse. If you ain't vegan you are an animal abuser.

I'll bet that's not far from the truth. I'll also bet nobody will admit it.

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http://wingsoverscotland.com/ http://www.newsnetscotland.com/

Taxi bill 'could cost jobs'

http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/ ... ivelive%2F

A new law for taxi drivers could leave more than 450 of them out of work, a union spokesman has warned.

26 Jun 2007

Is this what the council are after I wonder

JD..I have passed this to Pat.. http://www.geocities.com/taxistats/printworks.pdf

I hope you do not mind...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Not in the least.

My personal opinion is that this type of activity is bound to increase as can be seen by events in Chester, therefore the sooner it goes to court the better. I don't know who is going to take up the legal challenge but I have no doubt that someone might, "eventually"?

Regards

JD

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Something you might find interesting, a certain group of licensing officers seem to be working together, and in my opinion have their own interpretation of licensing laws, they are from Chester, Warrington, Manchester, Blackpool and Preston....?? Warrington has private hire taxi marshals which operate outside of a private hire office which is in front of a Hackney stand... Oh by the way they also insisted that Hackney's have to have a private hire operators Licence.. or at least they used to...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

One tier system its coming that is the answer plane and simple it is the plane and simple answer to all these problems

The Police want it the public want it City safe want it no more problems of is the metro running what time do they finish running are the buses running late tonight walk out of any club and flag a cab no queueing for 2 hours on a Hackney rank no trying to phone a cab no P.U.ing.

The sooner the better.

M.P.H.O.D.A.

Well I'm not so sure about the one tier system being the cure, but a two tier system without numbers restrictions is.

It could have been the cure prior to 1976, but will never happen now.

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IDFIMH

Why do you not think it will happen now sussex they used to say Private Hire would never get pick up points in Citys but needs must.

Times are a changing.

If a PH is allowed to pick up off the street, then that makes him/her a taxi.

Now I have no problem with that, but it will mean no-more PH.

And that's the bit I can't see happening.

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IDFIMH

The only real thing thats stopping it at the moment is you need to phone for one, (alegidly)
OH they do not know where there going most of the time, some are Mobil sheds some dont have meters and none have a top sign
And to quote or learned friend GBC taxeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee boss