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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:30 pm 
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He described, to general approval, the absurd position of licensing officers having to explain to magistrates why a private hire vehicle wasn’t allowed to ply for hire despite being licensed in an almost identical way as a hackney carriage.

Indeed. =D>

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Respondents reported significant problems with the current regime, such as licensed vehicles of both hues ‘cherry-picking’ fares to the detriment of the public, tensions between the two sides of a trade who are performing the same job, differing licence requirements between neighbouring authorities resulting in disproportionate and inconsistent regulation, cross-border hiring, and a failure of the legislation to keep pace with modern developments such as the internet, satellite navigation and mobile phones.

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Because they have nothing better to do and just occasionally there may be a good job come up if the trains are not running. Some of them get a few phoned in jobs as well during that time so they do get a bit more for the whole day but this is the sort of money they get off the rank. personally I would rather sit at home waiting for the phone to ring and play on the computer. :mrgreen:

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I don't understand how a single tier system would benefit the PUBLIC.

Sorry, I forgot, we are not interested in the public, only the type of plate we have on the back of our vehicle as we consider PH to be of lower standing to HC.

What a complete load of tosh.

The bottom line here is that this Institute of Licensing is proposing things that will make their lives easier ............. pandering to those who want everything but don't want to actually have to do or risk anything themselves to get it.

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I don't understand how a single tier system would benefit the PUBLIC.

Well of course it will, if a chap is walking down the street looking for a cab comes across a licensed PH, it's got to be better if that licensed PH is a licensed cab and can take him where he wants to go.

It's also not good for public safety if that licensed PH takes him to where he wants to go outside of the law.

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pandering to those who want everything but don't want to actually have to do or risk anything themselves to get it.

What are you risking? :?

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Jim Button asked delegates to consider even whether local authorities (outside London) should remain as the licensing authorities.
Any money you like it would be the same licensing officers working for a different department after they had negotiated a new wage scale... they do not give a damn whether Taxis make any money or not.... as long as YOU pay the licensing FEE ...... :oops:

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This is a very interesting topic, I will be adding this issue to the agenda of our National Organising Committee meeting next week.

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I don't understand how a single tier system would benefit the PUBLIC.

Well of course it will, if a chap is walking down the street looking for a cab comes across a licensed PH, it's got to be better if that licensed PH is a licensed cab and can take him where he wants to go.

It's also not good for public safety if that licensed PH takes him to where he wants to go outside of the law.


Hang on a minute here Suspect my old fruit ................. what happens if he walking along the street looking for a cab because he can't book a PH ........... what happens if the bloke is walking along the street looking for a cab because the PH car he booked had taken another fare cause it was going further .............. what happens if he was walking along the street looking for a cab because the PH booking office was so full of people that he was told he'd have to wait an hour cause half their cars had disappeared taking unbooked fares.

On your second feeble point ................... if a PH driver takes him where he wants to go outside of the law, then he is letting down the customers who have taken the time to ring the operator concerned and give them business so that he can earn a few quid.

Absolutely disgraceful ..................... we are in a business that primarily provides the public with a service .............. and the SCUM PH drivers that are more concerned with their own inferiority complex should do what every HC driver has done and "put up"or "shut up".

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pandering to those who want everything but don't want to actually have to do or risk anything themselves to get it.

What are you risking? :?


Now my suspender wearing friend I'm risking absolutely nothing.

But in the past I have risked the roof over my childrens heads by investing in the industry I chose to work in ................. under conditions I was more than aware of.

The risk was worth it ........... the investment worthwhile ............ I made a good living ............... I would neither make the same decision now, nor would I risk anything at all to remain involved in it.

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I'd like to know how they are going to regulate our hours? :?
That's all I'd like to know I don't want to get into pseudo political debates. Just tell me that :P

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I'd like to know how they are going to regulate our hours? :?
That's all I'd like to know I don't want to get into pseudo political debates. Just tell me that :P
Buses and Lorries use a tachograph. If they did go down this route, I imagine it would be done in a similar way.

Can't see it happening though.

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I'd like to know how they are going to regulate our hours? :?
That's all I'd like to know I don't want to get into pseudo political debates. Just tell me that :P
Buses and Lorries use a tachograph. If they did go down this route, I imagine it would be done in a similar way.

Can't see it happening though.


In your vehicle you have a device that measures time and distance.

Its called a meter.

Many meters have the facility to print daily reports.

New meters could well be developed (if they are not already) that automatically turn off (or text the relevant authority or both) when the vehicle has been in use for a certain period of time ................ and then automatically turn itself back on when the relevant "rest period" has passed.

Technolgy is a danerous thing .............. it makes the impossible possible.

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I'd like to know how they are going to regulate our hours? :?
That's all I'd like to know I don't want to get into pseudo political debates. Just tell me that :P
Buses and Lorries use a tachograph. If they did go down this route, I imagine it would be done in a similar way.

Can't see it happening though.


In your vehicle you have a device that measures time and distance.

Its called a meter.

Many meters have the facility to print daily reports.

New meters could well be developed (if they are not already) that automatically turn off (or text the relevant authority or both) when the vehicle has been in use for a certain period of time ................ and then automatically turn itself back on when the relevant "rest period" has passed.

Technolgy is a danerous thing .............. it makes the impossible possible.

B. Lucky :D
Scary :shock:

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I'm fully aware I have a meter in my car :roll: I also have other drivers that drive the same car, with me so far? How are you going to say who is driving at any one time? FFS!

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