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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:00 pm 
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Secondly, GMB investigations have revealed that the Brighton schools contract exempts the Lewes based service provider from the requirement that their drivers on the Brighton contract pass a national DSA Taxi Drivers driving test. This means that these drivers are tested to a lower standard than all other taxi drivers in Brighton or in Lewes. Brighton City Council says that this lower standard is justified on the grounds of cost.


What national DSA test is this its not an official requirement, only a local one made by the we know best brigade
If a person has passed the national driving test for the country they are from there is no need to pass another and as long as they are over 21 and have held a full licence for one year or more they are legally entitled to drive a taxi once they have been licenced and had the crb check


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skippy41 wrote:
What national DSA test is this its not an official requirement, only a local one made by the we know best brigade

It's an official requirement in some areas in the same way as a knowledge test.

The fact that one operator asked his council to exempt him, to undercut the trade that has to do it, is something that should be bought to folks attention.

My own thoughts are that the DSA taxi test is a good thing, and it's about time the trade tried to improve our standing. :wink:

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Sorry Sussex totally disagree with the manditory DSA test that is not a Government requirement

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Thirdly, those working with children are required to be checked and re-checked by the Criminal Records Bureau. Brighton Council has a policy of not re-checking the school transport drivers and escorts. In fact, since August 2007 not a single check has been made by the Council for those working on the school transport contract. This is most surprising given that Brighton & Hove councillors specifically instructed officials at the March 2007 P&R Committee meeting to do these checks.


A CRB is only required every three years and not yearly as the council can just do a police check in between
On a personal note once you have had it done you should not require another one unless you leave the trade, a simple police check would be suffice after as that would show up any mistameaners


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Sorry Sussex totally disagree with the manditory DSA test that is not a Government requirement

I agree, but neither is a local knowledge.

IMO both are as important as each other. :wink:

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Sorry Sussex totally disagree with the manditory DSA test that is not a Government requirement

I agree, but neither is a local knowledge.

IMO both are as important as each other. :wink:

I agree with a local knowledge test as some dont know where the end of the street is :wink:


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A CRB is only required every three years and not yearly as the council can just do a police check in between

I think the checks are on the CRB, not the CRB checks. :?

In other words the council hasn't checked to see if those drivers and escorts doing the contract have CRBs in the first place.

Now that's easy peasy in relation to drivers licensed by the same council, but not so those licensed elsewhere.

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Now that's easy peasy in relation to drivers licensed by the same council, but not so those licensed elsewhere.


I dont see the problem there either, as the law states that all drivers must have a CRB check so no matter if the council are using Guss from Aberdeen to do the contract he will still have been checked

As for the being able to understand the lingo thats another thing :lol: :lol:


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I dont see the problem there either, as the law states that all drivers must have a CRB check so no matter if the council are using Guss from Aberdeen to do the contract he will still have been checked

But the law doesn't state every escort need have one. :wink:

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As for the being able to understand the lingo thats another thing :lol: :lol:
fit are ye on aboot min? we a spik richt guid aroon here nivver hid ony bither ata wi the sassenachs an ither fowk, ye ken. :lol: :lol:

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The points are:

Brighton & Hove City Council are using an operator who according to its own licensing authority are operating outside the law.

The Education Dept of Brighton & Hove Council were instructed to check that all Operators, drivers, vehicles and escorts were properly licensed and CRB checked to protect the children. THEY HAVE NOT YET CHECKED ONE!

The drivers who do not take the DSA test are allowed to do so by Lewes DC so the Lewes Operator can put in cheaper tenders for contract work. FORGET STANDARDS THEY ARE ONLY CHILDREN.

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The drivers who do not take the DSA test are allowed to do so by Lewes DC so the Lewes Operator can put in cheaper tenders for contract work. FORGET STANDARDS THEY ARE ONLY CHILDREN.


Can you provide any evidence that Lewes DC have not run a full CRB check, i think you will find they have, as they would not be driving taxis or PH for that matter, and its sour grapes on the part of B@H owners as they have not got the balls to tell the council to stick the DSA test, or it could be they dont have the sense to put in a reasonable tender, most councils want to save money so the tend to lean towards the cheapest.
They cannot even tell the council to go feck themselves when it comes to cab colour why paint a decent car 2 tone just to satisfy a bunch of we know best numptys, OH I forgot BB thats should be your job so go and read the best practice and you will see that car colour should not be an issue and there is no need to change it, FFS your getting more like ELL Tell every day,
If you represent any of the drivers and owners down there go and fight for them instead of publishing a load of sheit :evil: :evil: :x :x


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They are making a closed shop :shock:

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skippy41 wrote:
Can you provide any evidence that Lewes DC have not run a full CRB check,

Your missing the point Mr Skippy.

B&H councillors told their officials last year that checks on drivers and escort (CRB and badges), vehicles (plates and condition) and operators (documentation etc) took place regularly.

Mr BB has said that he has e-mails from the council to say no checks whatsoever have taken place. So in effect officials have ignored councillor's instructions.

Now a case could be made, in relation to B&H drivers/vehicles/operators, saying the council has all their required documentation. Still ignored councillor instructions, but at least safety shouldn't really be an issue.

But when the vehicles are licensed by another council nothing can be taken for granted.

And when one considers that the Lewes firm lobbied successfully to have watered down standards from their local council, one has to worry what else they are hiding. :?

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They are making a closed shop :shock:

Some might say that restricting taxi numbers is as big a closed shop as one can imagine. :shock:

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