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I think I remember something about this from a meeting at the beggining of last year and the Hummer was returned to the owner the next day because they had no grounds for impounding it.

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Limousine Hire Firm Steers into £9,000 Fine.

A limousine company has been prosecuted for using unlicensed cars and drivers in a police and council crackdown. Travlemaster Limited in Warren Road, Brighton, faced eight charges of operating unlicensed vehicles and drivers at Brighton Magistrates Court.

The company was fined £2,400 and ordered to pay £6,700 costs. But the Woodingdean firms boss maintained most of the limousines were sub-contracted out and all were fully licensed and intends to appeal against the decision.

Police, council and VOSA officers carried out spot checks on 21 limousines in December 2006 in an operation called Fantasia. Travlemasters, a licensed taxi operator, was prosecuted for using unlicensed vehicles and unlicensed drivers.

The company faced three charges of operating a vehicle for private hire with no licence, three of permitting a vehicle to be used with an unlicensed driver and two for failing to keep records. Travlemasters were not represented in court.

The firms director John Gray said: “We haven’t done anything wrong. I have been in business for 15 years. They have always known how we are run”.

A police spokeswoman said: Everyone who visits Brighton & Hove should be able to have a safe evening and we would urge anyone booking a limousine to check the credentials of the company they are booking with”

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The firms director John Gray said: “We haven’t done anything wrong. I have been in business for 15 years. They have always known how we are run”.

Yes you c*** we know how you run, but now we have people in place in, and outside, of the council who are no having it any more. [-X

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How many times does this article need putting on this forum??????????????

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How many times does this article need putting on this forum??????????????

I hadn't see a quote from the owner, so I put this article from the local rag up with said quotes. :wink:

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How many times does this article need putting on this forum??????????????


Isn't this TravelMasters an NLCA Registered Limo Operating company by virtue of it being the parent company of "Limomasters" Brighton? Or have I got that wrong? If so what is the connection between Limo Masters and Travelmasters because Limomasters state they are a branch of Travel masters?

Can the NLCA confirm that all Limomasters vehicles are licensed and likewise all vehicles that fly under the Travelmasters banner?

Or don't the NLCA give a chit how many unlicensed outfits join their organisation?

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Can the NLCA confirm that all Limomasters vehicles are licensed and likewise all vehicles that fly under the Travelmasters banner?

It is the very same firm, and bookings are are received at the very same place by the very same people.

As for their place at the NLCA table, well maybe they are all of a same standard. If not then they should be binned IMO.

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The firms director John Gray said: “We haven’t done anything wrong. I have been in business for 15 years. They have always known how we are run”.


The problem is Mr Gray, you have done something wrong, otherwise the courts would not have found you guilty on several counts of licensing infringements. The fact that local licensing authorities and in particular VOSA in the main turn a blind eye to the illegal activities of limo operators such as yours is neither here nor there. At least the local Sussex police force combined with Brighton Taxi licensing unit and of course in this particular case we can't leave out the involvement of VOSA, were more than determined to show the unlicensed limo trade that they mean business.

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A police spokeswoman said: Everyone who visits Brighton & Hove should be able to have a safe evening and we would urge anyone booking a limousine to check the credentials of the company they are booking with”


Now you can't get any fairer than that but it begs the question why do the NLCA not advise the public that when using their website search facility for limo companies that many of those registered with the NLCA are unlicensed?

It would appear the NLCA really couldn't care less whether their members are licensed or not but wouldn't it be nice for the public one day to read this quote on their website, "Search for an NLCA Registered and FULLY LICENSED Limo Operator".

Instead of this.

Search for an NLCA Registered Limo Operator.

It would appear to me at least, that the NLCA are trying to hoodwink the public into thinking that just because a limo operator is registered with them, that they are somehow operating legally? That might be the case in many instances but obviously not all. Perhaps the NLCA should lead by example and remove all registered companies who haven't yet complied with our licensing laws in respect of "hire or reward".

I hope the NLCA are now going to advertise this conviction on their website as an example of what happens to Limo operators when they try and operate outside the law. I don't suppose the NLCA will be too proud of the fact that one of their members was found guilty of breaching licensing laws but I'm sure it won't be the last.

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JD wrote:
grandad wrote:
How many times does this article need putting on this forum??????????????


Isn't this TravelMasters an NLCA Registered Limo Operating company by virtue of it being the parent company of "Limomasters" Brighton? Or have I got that wrong? If so what is the connection between Limo Masters and Travelmasters because Limomasters state they are a branch of Travel masters?

Can the NLCA confirm that all Limomasters vehicles are licensed and likewise all vehicles that fly under the Travelmasters banner?

Or don't the NLCA give a chit how many unlicensed outfits join their organisation?

Regards

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At the time that the company were stopped they were not members of the then NLA. They must have joined sometime after January 2007. I would like to think that they joined the NLcA so that they could find out about the correct way to operate and that they are now operating within the law.

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. I would like to think that they joined the NLcA so that they could find out about the correct way to operate and that they are now operating within the law.

Let's hope that's the case then.
If it isn't, someone around here will probably find out.

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. I would like to think that they joined the NLcA so that they could find out about the correct way to operate and that they are now operating within the law.

Let's hope that's the case then.
If it isn't, someone around here will probably find out.


Would that be Black John? :mrgreen:

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I would like to think that they joined the NLcA so that they could find out about the correct way to operate and that they are now operating within the law.

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Let's hope that's the case then.
If it isn't, someone around here will probably find out.

Not surprisingly Mr Gusmac that is not the case, and IMO never will be.

I'm pretty sure the mush currently has (emphasise the word currently) a B&H PH ops license, so he is well aware of PH regs, just doesn't like adhering to them.

He also has a current PSV restricted license (again emphasise the word current) which is abused on a daily basis.

At least one school has rejected his minibuses when they turn up. Interestingly he sends three minibuses when the restricted license only allow two discs.

I could go on but I have been made aware of a big black cloud hanging over this mush, and when it breaks I will glady put that up on here. :wink:

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Well if he is doing as you say then he deserves everything he has coming to him. The man must be a fool.

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Well if he is doing as you say then he deserves everything he has coming to him. The man must be a fool.

Fool maybe, but calculating ***t defo.

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