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Check your facts JD, I think you will find you are wrong.

I run both Limos & Exec cars and I come across a very large number of unlicensed operators of executive cars, on a daily basis.

Most are completely ignorant of the fact that they need to be Licensed.

Steve

TDO offers a platform for anyone to voice their views and opinions in respect of all matters regarding licensing of Taxis and private hire vehicles and other forms of Transport. If anyone has any input as to unlicensed operators of any kind including Executive transfers then they are quite at liberty to articulate their point and present any evidence to back up their reasoning.

To say I have my facts wrong without presenting any evidence is a little unfair as my statement was a personal opinion and If i say I have not been presented with any facts relating to Executive Transfers then that is the case. However, all unlicensed operators are now in the frame and I am quite sure that when the 343 licensing authorities in England and Wales get their act together with a little help from TDO then we shall see a swift reduction in unlicensed operators.

In the meantime if you care to expand on your comments in respect of unlicensed Executive travel then I'm sure we would all be very interested indeed.

Regards

JD

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The list of offenders is not very long yet!

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Grandad,

Indeed JD, but your personal opinion is always very weighted against the limo trade, however, these executive travel companies have been around for a lot longer than Limos, yet you fail to pick up on the fact that they have been operating along side the Hackney/Private Hire trade for years, whilst many on the whole, are unlicensed.
All I am saying is, while you are on your private crusade against unlicensed vehicles, start ringing some of those Exec companies, as well as limo companies and you might form a less biased viewpoint.
Or to put it another way, Executive Saloons are a lot closer to home than Limos.

Steve

Not just limo's, last Friday I counted 14 vehicles at a local school (special needs transport) that were not showing any disc or plates anywhere on the vehicles, all operating local authority contracts.

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you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

I think a quick look at the membership of the NLCA and the members of talking limos would make a list very long.

Didn't someone from talking limos say that there was only about a dozen firms running hummers within the PSV system? Or via the scam?

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IDFIMH

This mob are advertised in the local rag almost daily.

http://www.rainbow-limos.com/

Two-bob website, but that's another issue.

Anyway the vehicles are not licensed by B&H or Lewes, and the address and name isn't listed on the VOSA register.

Surprise surprise.

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IDFIMH

They give away comp bubbly too, bet they aint got an alcohol license neither ( Your next crusade perhaps JD )

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Legal and proud

Loads a love from BERTIE !!

Naturally the thread is in place for anyone to submit information about any unlicensed operation. It may be the case that many subscribers to TDO are not interested in spending time in determining who is, or isn't, licensed and who can blame them?

For my part I've contacted three companies one of which operates unlicensed vehicles with over 8 passenger seats and two who do not. In fact I sincerely hope that everyone I contact in the future is duly licensed because that would mean these operators are taking the law seriously.

I would hope it is everyones aim to rid the country of all unlicensed persons who either operate unlicensed vehicles or act as unlicensed drivers.

Regards

JD

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One would assume that if they have no Taxi or private hire identification plate then they are not licensed by the council. That just leaves two options either they are licensed under psv legislation and are not displaying their discs or they are not licensed at all. If you inform me of the local authority I'll make some enquiries and try and get you some answers.

Regards

JD

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I think we should perhaps clarify that by saying the "unlicensed Limo trade". I am on record as advocating a special licensing regime for all limos so it can hardly be said I am against the Limo trade. You will find that I am against anything unlicensed that carries on a business of hire or reward. I think there is a subtle difference in advocating something that is lawful as against supporting something that is unlawful.



I must admit that before the sudden proliferation of the Limo trade unlicensed executive travel had not been a cause for concern as far as I and many others were concerned. Perhaps that was down to the low profile of the activity which in the main unlike the operation of Limos was barely visible. Limousines operating for hire or reward brought with them a visible high profile that was impossible to ignore. The success of the Industry brought about the current situation where legislation had to be amended in order to close a loophole that many thought was being abused. Pink ladies also contributed to the demise of that particular loophole.

The bottom line is this, the majority of the licensed hackney carriage and private hire trade do not condone the operation of unlicensed vehicles or their drivers operating outside the law. It would appear and I hope you agree that many vehicle operators and drivers, including some in the Limo fraternity were and still are aware of their legal obligations, yet chose to ignore them.

The lack of enforcement by those entrusted with the task of policing unlicensed vehicles is no excuse for responsible persons to act irresponsibly. One would like to assume that anyone spending large amounts of money on luxury vehicles would at least have some respect for the law in which they wish to operate. It is abundantly clear that the majority of Limo operators at one time or another were not licensed and were therefore operating outside the law.



I wouldn't call it a private crusade I'm just doing what many others think about doing but don't have the urgency to see it through. If TDO didn't lead then who would?

Regards

JD

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I just wanted to put this one up.

http://www.no-prob-limo.co.uk/htmlsite/about.html

Not because I believe they are running illegal, or though they may be, but because I had to laugh at one of their selling points.

i.e. They have been operating for over 16 months.

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IDFIMH

Following on from the above firm, can any of the Limo lads on here just remind me what license this firm must use to run a Lincoln for ten?

Or are they in the 95% that don't bother with such things as a proper license?

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IDFIMH

You cant run a lincoln Towncar licensed for 10 ( to the best of my knowledge ) However you can run a lincoln navigator for 10 under schedule six ( i believe )

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Legal and proud

Loads a love from BERTIE !!

You can't run it, you can only rent it out to someone you don't know, and get someone you don't have any contact with to drive it.

Or so we are told.

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IDFIMH