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 Post subject: York Stn Bullet tickets
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:07 am 
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led to believe as from December York Stn rank will have to adapt to bullet fares system as applied by National Express, ie the railway customer will buy a train ticket, ask their destination after rail travel for onward journey by taxi, the taxi journey will be priced in the ticket

they get off at the rail stn and jump into a taxi, they have paid for it

how are going to do this, are they going to estimate, ie. where do you live, Acomb, York as example, ok we will book this down as 5 quid, but what part of Acomb, the meter could be £4 or up to £8 quid depending on where abouts in Acomb, dont see how they can do this without the driver loosing out

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I'm certain this will sink without trace.

How many customers new to a city/town have a clue where anything is, let's face many cab drivers haven't a clue. :roll:

So the chances of the railway folks getting the price right, are nil.

Doomed to failure, IMO nothing to worry about. :wink:

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Stinky Pete wrote:
led to believe as from December York Stn rank will have to adapt to bullet fares system as applied by National Express, ie the railway customer will buy a train ticket, ask their destination after rail travel for onward journey by taxi, the taxi journey will be priced in the ticket

they get off at the rail stn and jump into a taxi, they have paid for it

how are going to do this, are they going to estimate, ie. where do you live, Acomb, York as example, ok we will book this down as 5 quid, but what part of Acomb, the meter could be £4 or up to £8 quid depending on where abouts in Acomb, dont see how they can do this without the driver loosing out

drivers not happy about this


The new sysytem at Leeds Bradford Airport where PH took over from hackneys, works as follows you simply give them your post code and the computer system works out nearly to the penny what the fare will be.


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How does a PH office work out the fares? Do drivers complain about them?
If a customer asks you how much a fare is going to be, do you just say sorry luv it's on the meter or do you have a guess? I would think the computerised system that will be used by the railway will be more accurate than a guess. The only thing that it wont be able to take into account is traffic problems.

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many years ago central trains tried to set up a similar system taxi firms had to quote them a price per mile WITHOUT FLAGFALL INCLUDED suffice to say i dont think it got off the ground

the problem will be that the computer sytem they are using will be able to calculate a distance for the journey BUT will probably only be able to work out the price on a distance calculated x £Y per mile basis and of course the train operators will be taking their cut off the top as well !


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At least with this system they will have to go the shortest rout or loose out :lol: :lol: :wink:


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edders23 wrote:
many years ago central trains tried to set up a similar system taxi firms had to quote them a price per mile WITHOUT FLAGFALL INCLUDED suffice to say i dont think it got off the ground

the problem will be that the computer sytem they are using will be able to calculate a distance for the journey BUT will probably only be able to work out the price on a distance calculated x £Y per mile basis and of course the train operators will be taking their cut off the top as well !


One assumes they probably have software that allows them to key in the final destination which generates a combined price of the fare to York station and the exact mileage to their given destination. The total of the two is what you pay.

If you have a setup like you do at York station where Station Taxis dictate the terms of operation then you won't be able to refuse this type of hire, will you, even though it might be financially unrewarding compared to normal cash hires?

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How does a PH office work out the fares?

If they have meters they just say they have meters, and give a rough idea.

If they don't then I guess they must zone it some way. But that doesn't take into account waiting time. :sad:

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grandad wrote:
How does a PH office work out the fares? Do drivers complain about them?


The PH office work out the fare by entering your post code into their computer system, they tell you how much the journey will cost and then you pay them at the office,before you get in the car, they then issue you with a car number and you go outside and find your car which means it is pre boked, and yes the drivers do complain because it is all account work which they receive payment for at the end of the month.


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The PH office work out the fare by entering your post code into their computer system, they tell you how much the journey will cost and then you pay them at the office,

What happens if the punter tells a fib, and the job goes twice as long as the punters says? :?

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grandad wrote:
How does a PH office work out the fares? Do drivers complain about them?


The PH office work out the fare by entering your post code into their computer system, they tell you how much the journey will cost and then you pay them at the office,before you get in the car, they then issue you with a car number and you go outside and find your car which means it is pre boked, and yes the drivers do complain because it is all account work which they receive payment for at the end of the month.


So its not an all in one ticket.

The hire is separate from the train journey. The passenger has to book with a Taxi or a private hire company. How many people are going to go through that rigmarole when they can just walk out onto the concourse and jump into one on the Rank?

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It makes you wonder... if the rail company will be applying for a private hire operators Licence.

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It makes you wonder... if the rail company will be applying for a private hire operators Licence.


Thats a fair point. If it was private hire they would probably need one but station taxis are hackney.

What about your mate Joanne Connolly batting for an unlicensed private hire outfit in Warrington, namely Pink Ladies?

Pink Ladies say Joanne Connolly has found them a loophole in the law? lol As per usual I'm sceptical but considering you're on first name terms maybe you can ask young miss Connolly what this loophole is because even though its a loophole its that secretive that those connected with pink ladies are scared to say what it is.

I think that speaks for itself don't you?

If you go to this next meeting of minds exercise you can tell miss Connolly that if there was a loophole she wouldn't be so afraid of showing her azz. And that it is quite evident that she is certainly afraid of showing her more complimentary attributes for fear of being ridiculed.

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I am quite certain that Joe can speak for herself.. as a lawyer she has a living to make .. and I am also quite certain that you would agree everyone has the right to legal representation.... win or lose... :wink:

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I am quite certain that Joe can speak for herself.. as a lawyer she has a living to make .. and I am also quite certain that you would agree everyone has the right to legal representation.... win or lose... :wink:


lol she won't make much of a living giving wrong advice.

Besides I approached you because you are associated with the NTA and considering you were guested at the last meeting of minds excercise and the fact you used to be in the NTTG I thought you might try and extract from her that which she is extremely shy at making public herself.

Its neither here nor there to me because I know that whatever she has told pink ladies is a crock of chit. So she's only deluding herself if she thinks otherwise but i would be more than delighted to put her in her place. lol

Did we ever find out who the clown was who dreamed up the farcical amendment to the cross border hiring issue? John Thompson was all apologetic when he huffed and puffed and said it wasn't him but that it was only a draft. I told him it was a pretty poor draft at best. Maybe he felt ashamed admitting the fact that he had some involvement?

Wayne Casey said it wasn't him who dreamed it up so that leaves miss Connolly, Mr Thompson or Mr Roland, maybe all three had a hand in it and yet they still couldn't get it right.

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