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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:01 am 
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National Express, GNER, or going even further back to BR East Coast have never asked us for a penny down at the London end of the line. I guess having the station blockaded for a week would'nt do there customer relations any good.


Aren't London exempt from such charges by way of legislation?

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GBC wrote:
National Express, GNER, or going even further back to BR East Coast have never asked us for a penny down at the London end of the line. I guess having the station blockaded for a week would'nt do there customer relations any good.


Aren't London exempt from such charges by way of legislation?

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I don't think so, but we are fortunate that both the Kings Cross rank / St Pancras International are located on public roads as there is literally no space within the station to accommodate such a facility.

However, all the other main line terminuses are on railway property, so they could in effect try, TRY to introduce some form of charging.

I don't believe there's a Minicab company that could cope with the turnaround from most of the stations, Paddington’s rank must despatch over 1000 cabs an hour at peak periods, so I believe our position is safe.


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GBC wrote:
I don't think so, but we are fortunate that both the Kings Cross rank / St Pancras International are located on public roads as there is literally no space within the station to accommodate such a facility.

However, all the other main line terminuses are on railway property, so they could in effect try, TRY to introduce some form of charging.

I don't believe there's a Minicab company that could cope with the turnaround from most of the stations, Paddington’s rank must despatch over 1000 cabs an hour at peak periods, so I believe our position is safe.


I found it.

Taxis at railway stations and airports.

By virtue of local legislation applying in London, railway stations in London and their approaches and precincts are deemed to be public streets or places. Any road or place within an airport in the metropolitan police district is also deemed to be a street or place.

In the admission of cabs to a railway station, or in the treatment of cabs while in a railway station, the company having control of the station must not show any preference to any cab, or give any cab a privilege, which is not given to other cabs, and where any charge is made in respect of the admission of any cab to a railway station for the purpose of plying for hire therein, the charge must not exceed such sum as "may be allowed by Transport for London".

If it is proved to the satisfaction of Transport for London that it will not be possible to obtain a sufficient supply of cabs at a railway station for the proper accommodation of the public, unless the operation of this provision is suspended or modified as respects that provision, Transport for London may by London cab order so modify or suspend that provision with respect to that station subject to such conditions as may be specified in the order.

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JD wrote:
I found it.

Taxis at railway stations and airports.

By virtue of local legislation applying in London, railway stations in London and their approaches and precincts are deemed to be public streets or places. Any road or place within an airport in the metropolitan police district is also deemed to be a street or place.





Interesting.
The Airport situation was raised recently as BAA seems to think they've taken over the roll of the PCO within the confines of Heathrow airport.
Apparently they have tried to ban drivers for whatever reasons they see fit, with the trade bodies arguing the airport authority is in no position to stop a taxi working within the boundaries of Heathrow, as only the PCO or ultimately a court can revoke a driver’s right to ply for hire.

I guess that's the above order that's been raised in defence of the driver(s).
Mind you some of them do bring it onto themselves over pricing local runs which are primarily out of area for hiring purposes.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:53 am 
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National Express have raised the price of a station permit by 50% up to £737 75p. which equates to £650 plus V.A.T. plus they are only offering this to Station taxis as their managing agents for one year then the rank goes out to tender. the new leadrer at the Station has rejected this offer and told them he wants 3 years and will only agree to an increase from last year of 45 plus inflation. They meet again next week.


to what i have heard it is £737 plus another payment later on in the year making it a 1000 per year, this year only, as they have stated they need to maximise earnings from the rank

did you know how it came into being these charges, back in the old days of horse and carriage it was made railway law that due to the amount of horse muck, a nominal charge was made, so that paid for someone to clean up the horse muck, thats how the charges at rail stn's started

so 38 Station shareholdes now decide the fate of the rest, whether to pay or not ie. as in a vote, pay up and shut up or take action

York Council know whats going on, the head of Taxi Licence dept. as stated, if National Express do go down the road of bringing PH in they will be kept an eye on and will have to do the job as per the book, ie. the law

he does admit that the Council failed as when the York Stn was modified and the old outside rank was removed that they should have adopted the railway rank, but with time that option gone now so its t*ts up on that

the only way now is to rank up outside the stn portico where the buses stand anmd sod National Express

now this firm who run at Leeeds Bradford Airport, i found out its run by a ex Leeds United Football player, its them who have made a bid for York Stn work at an estimated £25oo per vehicle per year

did you know that when the resident PH gets a job from Leeds Bradford Airport, lets say the fare is £16 the driver gets £6.50 for that job


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The problem is this.

You have two outfits that need to make a profit from Taxi drivers.

The rest is academic.

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