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Self Drive :
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I can only tell you what I have learnt over the past years, I take my advise from Officials/Barristers Etc.

First, Most Limo Ops want a single licence and admit self drive is not the future, but it is legal and allows them to work, if run correctly.

Over 2 years ago a group of limo opperators got together and employed a well known transport barrister to find a way that we can run the over 8 limos legally,hence self drive : This system has been passed through all the legal channels and law specialist. Not one can find fault if operated correctly. I am sure it will be challenged this year, If challenged I personally dont think the selfdrive system will be at fault just the way it is operated.

As for Insurance, AXA have a special self drive limousine policy that is for the National limousine assosiation members , Plus there are a few other brokers that offer a similar policy , It works Fine I have recentley had a large claim with no trouble.

Self drive works for all kind of vehicles , If over 8 seats it must meet schedual 6 of the construction and use regulations.

The goverment has stopped the problem from continuing by introducing the new PRI inspections for over 8 seat limos from the first of June .

Most coach builders are working towards COIF certification, with the 8 and under meeting sva regulations. Now with more and more authorities now accepting limos with a sva the limo Industy is getting there.

I myself curently run self drive , I dont employ any drivers . All our limos are no older than 12 months and are fully inspected every 10 weeks . I believe I run the bussines to the safest and best way possible .
The situation with JD was news to me , usually the driver claims its their limo , customers also don't normaly have a clue and are not even interested they just want a limo.

The only reason I am on here is to state the facts on how I run my business, as the limo forums have picked up on this post and would like nothing better than to put me down. Our Industry is full of tits as much as there are good guys, there are also many [edited by admin] that just want to screw the industry.

Style Limousines runs an open house policy Mon to fri 10 till 4, if any taxi lads are in the area they are welcome to call in for a chat and brew .

Thanks dan

Also please dont be offended if I dont reply to your questions.

I have a hard time on the limo forums without trying to keep up on here.

I have taken a look back at previous post for limousines and it dosent interest me in the way they have gone.

If you have any Genuine questions please dont hesitate in calling me on.
07512 007 007 I will be than happy to chat .

Thanks dan

Two points here, if you don't employ the driver, then that would imply the customer employs the driver but as you rightly say, "customers don't have a clue and are not even interested, they just want a limo". That is probably why chauffers believe they are employed by the person providing the limo.

The whole point about hire or reward is carrying on a business and like I said, "if anyone provides a vehicle with a driver for financial gain then they are carrying on a business for hire or reward".

I don't blame anyone for trying to find a legal way around a piece of legislation that prohibits a business from operating but ultimately the courts will decide on that issue. Whether or not this particular issue goes to court is another matter but if it does then it will be most interesting.

Regards

JD

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If the customer is employing the driver from an agency, why should he know the driver? I would think there is little chance that the customer would know the driver but every chance that the limo owner would know the driver.

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Grandad,

In this particular case the customer didn't approach an agency for a driver? We've been through all this before and it is all academic. "If", seems to be the weakest link in this self drive operation. "If this is done" or "that is done"?

If the operation of self drive hire or reward can only survive on "Ifs" then I suggest the foundation of the business model is less than solid.

The only thing that matters is the involvement of the company doing the advertising and the way the operation is meant to work. I have said it time and time again a court of law will tell you what type of business you run according to the way it is operated and not the other way around.

I'm surprised those operating self drive haven't the courage to test their theory in a court of law by way of a test case. The legal hiring of a limo is not in question, it is the provision of the driver that accompanies the limo that is in question?

Regards

JD

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Have you not been listening Sussex.. they are not there drivers but they come from who knows where and employed by no one ,and are answerable to no one . very strange...

So lets recap. the driver is nothing to do with the company..
The hirer is responcerble for vehicle not the driver..
So any problems with the vehicle the hirer gets nicked.not the driver or company.
does the hirers know this.

it has to work like this or it would not be true self drive hire..

I am not quite sure about the bit that the hirer is responsible for any problems with the vehicle and not the driver? What problems are you refering to?

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Grandad,

How about parking tickets? If I hire a car from Avis or Hertz, I have to pay these.

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http://wingsoverscotland.com/ http://www.newsnetscotland.com/

Any normal faults vosa look for, worn tyres , faulty brakes , etc.. if you have a avis car and there are problems avis state it was 100% when it left there depot..
Read there small print .

But all these faults are down to the driver not the hirer. It is the drivers responsibility to check the vehicle before he drives it.

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Grandad,

But in all other self drive hire the insurance is in the name of the hirer.

So what is stopping the hire company going back to the hirer if there is a insurance claim and there is a short fall in what the insurance company pays out, for the balance..