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Nothing whatsoever to do with that Fae Fife, the cheek of it.

Same old arguments though,managed growth is the way forward, consultation and consensus is the sensible way.

Equal rights are a two way Street you know.

I paid for my equal rights because I used the opportunity to do so, are you telling me that nobody else has the same opportunity to do the same.

Some of you seem very fatalistic to me in your outlooks, the only way to cure it is to kill it! When infact a little medicine would do the trick just as well.


Yes, but what record will you be playing tomorrow stu?

I never posted much on Fastblacks, but read most of it, and although I disagreed with a lot of what people said, at least you knew where they stood, while you changed your tune every other day.

I think you're havering aboot buying a plate as well, keeps the pot boiling though :wink:


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saf, given the childish nature of your posts, their inherent inaccuracy and the pedantry with which you deliver them, in your alter ego you're a councillor, aren't you?

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Good one Jim that must have taken a while :roll:
Tell me who taught you all the big words?,i know it wasn't Gary,he only repeats everything you say,i know it's the little oxford isn't it.
Yes i am a councillor but not the kind you think,i tend to deal with the people with more serious issues such as paranoia and people who can't stop telling lies. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Saf, the only reason you post on this forum is to engage with Jim and I. This is your way of standing up for yourself. A little bit of feel good factor for a desperate someone that nobody will ever know. Oh and spare me the, “I have got it all” routine - you’ve got squat, or at least nothing that won’t disappear in a heart beat. You see Saf, it’s the council that decide your level of existence, as it is they who control your little illusion, you are merely a pawn in a bigger game. The sad thing is, you will probably never have the wit to realise this.

This is the point where you post stupid banal comments you think are really clever - now imagine what you could write if you ever had a thought of your own. :roll:


"A desperate someone that nobody will ever know",as apposed to a desperate nobody that no one wants to know.I didn't say i had it all Gary,just way more than you :wink:


Saf, you have so much that nobody knows who you are? Strange that don't you think? You can claim what you like but can't back it up, now isn't that just you saf?

You live in a fantasy world Saf, along with the rest of the "plate owning", taxi driving, millionaires :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

The truth is Saf, it's the council that decide the terms and conditions of your existence and that's why you hide, because deep down, you know it's true.

The council own you Saf, and that's no ones fault but your own, they can strip your little world away in a heartbeat.

You're a worried man Saf . .. a very worried man . . . . :D

Now I remember, you are on this forum because you're not worried, silly me. It is you who tells the council what to do. Lucky the are all "fit and proper" to look after your interests. I am sure you have nothing to worry about.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:


"claim what you like but can't back it up" =D> =D> =D> =D>,Does this not sound familiar Gary."Fantasy world",that would be a world where two individuals think they are going to bring a council and it's regulations to it's knees because they don't agree with it's policies :shock:
We owners don't think we are millionaires,it's you and blunder boy who tell everybody this :roll: If you chose to keep your plates you would be in the same boat Gary.You are the one that greed got the better of and jumped ship :shock:So the worst that could happen is i lose a driver,big deal,it just means i would have to work three days a week instead of two. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Btw Gary,i don't know if you are aware of this but the whole system would still own you even if you had a plate,just remember how hard it would be if your licence was taken of you again for any reason. :wink:


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Nothing whatsoever to do with that Fae Fife, the cheek of it.

Same old arguments though,managed growth is the way forward, consultation and consensus is the sensible way.

Equal rights are a two way Street you know.

I paid for my equal rights because I used the opportunity to do so, are you telling me that nobody else has the same opportunity to do the same.

Some of you seem very fatalistic to me in your outlooks, the only way to cure it is to kill it! When infact a little medicine would do the trick just as well.


Yes, but what record will you be playing tomorrow stu?

I never posted much on Fastblacks, but read most of it, and although I disagreed with a lot of what people said, at least you knew where they stood, while you changed your tune every other day.

I think you're havering aboot buying a plate as well, keeps the pot boiling though :wink:


The record I'll be playing tomorrow is the one I own. 8)

Indecisive? well yes and no. :lol:


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I paid for my equal rights


Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

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saf wrote:
Skull wrote:
saf wrote:
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jasbar wrote:
saf, given the childish nature of your posts, their inherent inaccuracy and the pedantry with which you deliver them, in your alter ego you're a councillor, aren't you?

:lol:


Good one Jim that must have taken a while :roll:
Tell me who taught you all the big words?,i know it wasn't Gary,he only repeats everything you say,i know it's the little oxford isn't it.
Yes i am a councillor but not the kind you think,i tend to deal with the people with more serious issues such as paranoia and people who can't stop telling lies. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Saf, the only reason you post on this forum is to engage with Jim and I. This is your way of standing up for yourself. A little bit of feel good factor for a desperate someone that nobody will ever know. Oh and spare me the, “I have got it all” routine - you’ve got squat, or at least nothing that won’t disappear in a heart beat. You see Saf, it’s the council that decide your level of existence, as it is they who control your little illusion, you are merely a pawn in a bigger game. The sad thing is, you will probably never have the wit to realise this.

This is the point where you post stupid banal comments you think are really clever - now imagine what you could write if you ever had a thought of your own. :roll:


"A desperate someone that nobody will ever know",as apposed to a desperate nobody that no one wants to know.I didn't say i had it all Gary,just way more than you :wink:


Saf, you have so much that nobody knows who you are? Strange that don't you think? You can claim what you like but can't back it up, now isn't that just you saf?

You live in a fantasy world Saf, along with the rest of the "plate owning", taxi driving, millionaires :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

The truth is Saf, it's the council that decide the terms and conditions of your existence and that's why you hide, because deep down, you know it's true.

The council own you Saf, and that's no ones fault but your own, they can strip your little world away in a heartbeat.

You're a worried man Saf . .. a very worried man . . . . :D

Now I remember, you are on this forum because you're not worried, silly me. It is you who tells the council what to do. Lucky the are all "fit and proper" to look after your interests. I am sure you have nothing to worry about.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:


"claim what you like but can't back it up" =D> =D> =D> =D>,Does this not sound familiar Gary."Fantasy world",that would be a world where two individuals think they are going to bring a council and it's regulations to it's knees because they don't agree with it's policies :shock:
We owners don't think we are millionaires,it's you and blunder boy who tell everybody this :roll: If you chose to keep your plates you would be in the same boat Gary.You are the one that greed got the better of and jumped ship :shock:So the worst that could happen is i lose a driver,big deal,it just means i would have to work three days a week instead of two. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Btw Gary,i don't know if you are aware of this but the whole system would still own you even if you had a plate,just remember how hard it would be if your licence was taken of you again for any reason. :wink:


Saf, I don't give a sh*t about the council taking my licence. I told them to shove it once before and all I got was a months holiday. We have a case going forward at the present moment to change the way the councils Kangaroo court operates.

Don't you see Saf, it's because of ignorant, servile, plate owning ars*holes like you they expect everyone else to take it up the ar*e.

Owning someone is about dictating the terms and conditions of their existence and if you accepts this you are giving them permission to do just that. This is you Saf, not me, you're the kiss a*s.

You might try thinking for yourself once in a while, and who knows, you might even get to like it? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I paid for my equal rights


Isn't that a contradiction in terms?


Of course it isn't, would you agree that everyone has the same opportunity to obtain the licence as I have had.

I keep reiterating this point, it's the equality of opportunity surely, although in practice even that is doubtful really but it's a two way street.

Politically correct nonsense the lot of it.


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I paid for my equal rights


Isn't that a contradiction in terms?


Of course it isn't, would you agree that everyone has the same opportunity to obtain the licence as I have had.


Only if they had £50k to pay for it with.
Equal rights are for all, not just those who can afford them.

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So you want to go into business and you have no money to invest in it and that is whos fault exactly?

I mean if it's come to the point where people think that having money to invest in your own business is leading to inequality then I'm not sure how we can hope to progress at all in this country.

Of course you wouldn't think about the rights of those who did just that and invested in their own business, where are their equal rights in the great scheme of things?

It's the system thats in place here and thats, that, it doesn't mean I agree with it and it doesn't mean there are no problems with it.

If I wanted a shop I could get one but I would have to pay for that as well, equal rights don't come into for me.

Anyway it's equal opportunities, it's the definition of the word opportunities that is important, a possibility due to a favourable combination of circumstances, a possibility not a certainty.

To be honest what other people do is their business anyway, do the people who live in Edinburgh have equal rights as well?


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So you want to go into business and you have no money to invest in it and that is whos fault exactly?

I mean if it's come to the point where people think that having money to invest in your own business is leading to inequality then I'm not sure how we can hope to progress at all in this country.

Of course you wouldn't think about the rights of those who did just that and invested in their own business, where are their equal rights in the great scheme of things?

It's the system thats in place here and thats, that, it doesn't mean I agree with it and it doesn't mean there are no problems with it.

If I wanted a shop I could get one but I would have to pay for that as well, equal rights don't come into for me.

Anyway it's equal opportunities, it's the definition of the word opportunities that is important, a possibility due to a favourable combination of circumstances, a possibility not a certainty.

To be honest what other people do is their business anyway, do the people who live in Edinburgh have equal rights as well?


Methinks you're a turnip stu.

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WAMT There's no turnip in tripe is there?

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So you want to go into business and you have no money to invest in it and that is whos fault exactly?

I'm not too sure there are many businessman prepared to invest a considerable sum which in a show of hands at a council meeting could become worthless. :?

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Once again you lot fail to get it, God sake you lot really are collectively thick. :lol:

Trotsky tort- feasor Taylor strikes again, a turnip, me. :lol:

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Skull wrote:
saf wrote:
Skull wrote:
saf wrote:
Skull wrote:
saf wrote:
jasbar wrote:
saf, given the childish nature of your posts, their inherent inaccuracy and the pedantry with which you deliver them, in your alter ego you're a councillor, aren't you?

:lol:


Good one Jim that must have taken a while :roll:
Tell me who taught you all the big words?,i know it wasn't Gary,he only repeats everything you say,i know it's the little oxford isn't it.
Yes i am a councillor but not the kind you think,i tend to deal with the people with more serious issues such as paranoia and people who can't stop telling lies. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Saf, the only reason you post on this forum is to engage with Jim and I. This is your way of standing up for yourself. A little bit of feel good factor for a desperate someone that nobody will ever know. Oh and spare me the, “I have got it all” routine - you’ve got squat, or at least nothing that won’t disappear in a heart beat. You see Saf, it’s the council that decide your level of existence, as it is they who control your little illusion, you are merely a pawn in a bigger game. The sad thing is, you will probably never have the wit to realise this.

This is the point where you post stupid banal comments you think are really clever - now imagine what you could write if you ever had a thought of your own. :roll:


"A desperate someone that nobody will ever know",as apposed to a desperate nobody that no one wants to know.I didn't say i had it all Gary,just way more than you :wink:


Saf, you have so much that nobody knows who you are? Strange that don't you think? You can claim what you like but can't back it up, now isn't that just you saf?

You live in a fantasy world Saf, along with the rest of the "plate owning", taxi driving, millionaires :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

The truth is Saf, it's the council that decide the terms and conditions of your existence and that's why you hide, because deep down, you know it's true.

The council own you Saf, and that's no ones fault but your own, they can strip your little world away in a heartbeat.

You're a worried man Saf . .. a very worried man . . . . :D

Now I remember, you are on this forum because you're not worried, silly me. It is you who tells the council what to do. Lucky the are all "fit and proper" to look after your interests. I am sure you have nothing to worry about.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:


"claim what you like but can't back it up" =D> =D> =D> =D>,Does this not sound familiar Gary."Fantasy world",that would be a world where two individuals think they are going to bring a council and it's regulations to it's knees because they don't agree with it's policies :shock:
We owners don't think we are millionaires,it's you and blunder boy who tell everybody this :roll: If you chose to keep your plates you would be in the same boat Gary.You are the one that greed got the better of and jumped ship :shock:So the worst that could happen is i lose a driver,big deal,it just means i would have to work three days a week instead of two. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Btw Gary,i don't know if you are aware of this but the whole system would still own you even if you had a plate,just remember how hard it would be if your licence was taken of you again for any reason. :wink:


Saf, I don't give a sh*t about the council taking my licence. I told them to shove it once before and all I got was a months holiday. We have a case going forward at the present moment to change the way the councils Kangaroo court operates.

Don't you see Saf, it's because of ignorant, servile, plate owning ars*holes like you they expect everyone else to take it up the ar*e.

Owning someone is about dictating the terms and conditions of their existence and if you accepts this you are giving them permission to do just that. This is you Saf, not me, you're the kiss a*s.

You might try thinking for yourself once in a while, and who knows, you might even get to like it? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


"Ignorant,servile plate owning ars*holes",would this be the same "ignorant, servile ars*holes",that you and Jim aspire to be. :shock:


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So you want to go into business and you have no money to invest in it and that is whos fault exactly?
We are not talking about me. We are talking about equal rights or rather the lack of them. If I wished to invest in my business, I would much rather spend my money on a new cab and work sensible hours. Not spend more hours every day earning enough to pay back a £50,000 loan I had to take out mearly for the right to trade. Money which would line the pockets of someone else and gets me no more than a piece of paper and bit of plastic which most other places in scotland are issued for a nominal sum by the council.

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It's the system thats in place here and thats, that, it doesn't mean I agree with it and it doesn't mean there are no problems with it.
It sucks Stu and you know it.

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If I wanted a shop I could get one but I would have to pay for that as well, equal rights don't come into for me.
Yes you buy or lease the shop as you would a cab. Would you also have to pay someone £50,000 for the right to sell sweets or sandwiches as well?
I don't think so.

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Anyway it's equal opportunities, it's the definition of the word opportunities that is important, a possibility due to a favourable combination of circumstances, a possibility not a certainty.
Opportunity possibly, equal rights definitely not. Equal rights are granted equally to all and not just to those able and prepared to pay for them. :shock: Your definition would be better suited to some banana republic or an 19th century mill owner. It has no place in 21st century Scotland.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:06 pm 
Which proves that those who do are patently not businessmen.

That's just part of the illusion. These guys are playing at it.

Without the restriction they don't think they can survive. That's why they fear it.

Real businessmen would recognise change and adapt accordingly, just like those in the 70% of local authorities that are already de-restricted have done.

If they can do it with little difficulty why can't the powerful "businessmen" in Edinburgh?

The mindset of Edinburgh's taxi owners and drivers is a complete mystery to me. I just can't see any problem. Except losing the plate value of course, but who among them has admitted that? They all avoid the matter because they know it highlights their greed rather than customers' need.


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Ignorant,servile plate owning ars*holes",would this be the same "ignorant, servile ars*holes",that you and Jim aspire to be.


Or the one Ali-T failed at ?


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