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Only one filling station in the Borders with diesel at £127.9 :shock: rationed to £10 per car :cry: :cry: its a good job I'm full at the moment


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The latest news flash from the brain dead geriatric Del Boy is that next week he will be sorting it out for all private hire and Hackney's, They will be designated fuel...... priceless absolutely priceless :lol:

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Panic buying in full swing round here but fuel is still avaiable at the moment


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MR T wrote:
The latest news flash from the brain dead geriatric Del Boy is that next week he will be sorting it out for all private hire and Hackney's, They will be designated fuel...... priceless absolutely priceless :lol:


Errm that'll be the dusted off list that the NTA managed to get taxis included on last time then :roll:

FFS....stop stabbing join the GMB

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whys the price going up?....the cost of refining hasnt, greedy, greedy petrol stations....its not on...1200 workers whining about contributing a measily 6% towards a gold plated pension...and a shut down which could cost the country billions of pounds in lost manufacturing of all goods and disruptin all other services...line em up and fire them one by one...any one got any sympathy for these strikers that are striking even though they earn more a year than we could ever dream of earning..arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!


Supply and demand. The supply goes down, the demand remains the same or increases, the price goes up. Simple as.

The interesting thing is that by and large de-restriction wouldn't necessarily mean an increase in supply of taxis. At least not directly correlated to the number of vehicles licensed. That's because a taxi is of absolutely no use without a driver.

So it is the driver that becomes the key element in the supply/demand curve.

The number of drivers remains the same, supply stays the same, the price stays the same, demand stays the same, earnings stay the same.

Of course, there may be some adjustment here because the hours worked by drivers may vary at the edges. Owners may have to work a bit longer. Drivers operating on their own may iniutially want to work on. But this would soon settle down as drivers mostly returned to their previous working regimes. And owners revised their rentals to reduce the incentive for drivers to leave and operate their own vehicle.

No real change, no real effect on work levels.

Interestingly, there is an argument that increased supply, improved service level, could justify an increase in price. Under the right conditions we could see an improvement in the working conditions of drivers who could meet their income needs in a shorter time because of a higher tariff.

Of course, in the price/demand/supply curve, any price increase could reduce demand and we'd be back to square one. However, it could just be that if there was a more readily available supply of taxis, then more people might just be persuaded to use them, particularly at peak times. Any increase in demand here could lead to a containment of price, perhaps even a reduction. The trade would benefit from more bums on seats, and other transport groups would have a lesser incentive to introduce services in direct competition. Could just be that we could win our market share back.

Now, this is playing both ends of the probability curve. It could be up to the trade to influence which one synopsis would apply. A trade prepared to promote itself would be able to drive the market forward, in the face of competition.

And the investment in the professionalism of the driver, through real quality controls, would be the backbone of success.

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bloodnock wrote:
whys the price going up?....the cost of refining hasnt, greedy, greedy petrol stations....its not on...1200 workers whining about contributing a measily 6% towards a gold plated pension...and a shut down which could cost the country billions of pounds in lost manufacturing of all goods and disruptin all other services...line em up and fire them one by one...any one got any sympathy for these strikers that are striking even though they earn more a year than we could ever dream of earning..arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!


Supply and demand. The supply goes down, the demand remains the same or increases, the price goes up. Simple as.

The interesting thing is that by and large de-restriction wouldn't necessarily mean an increase in supply of taxis. At least not directly correlated to the number of vehicles licensed. That's because a taxi is of absolutely no use without a driver.

So it is the driver that becomes the key element in the supply/demand curve.

The number of drivers remains the same, supply stays the same, the price stays the same, demand stays the same, earnings stay the same.

Of course, there may be some adjustment here because the hours worked by drivers may vary at the edges. Owners may have to work a bit longer. Drivers operating on their own may iniutially want to work on. But this would soon settle down as drivers mostly returned to their previous working regimes. And owners revised their rentals to reduce the incentive for drivers to leave and operate their own vehicle.

No real change, no real effect on work levels.

Interestingly, there is an argument that increased supply, improved service level, could justify an increase in price. Under the right conditions we could see an improvement in the working conditions of drivers who could meet their income needs in a shorter time because of a higher tariff.

Of course, in the price/demand/supply curve, any price increase could reduce demand and we'd be back to square one. However, it could just be that if there was a more readily available supply of taxis, then more people might just be persuaded to use them, particularly at peak times. Any increase in demand here could lead to a containment of price, perhaps even a reduction. The trade would benefit from more bums on seats, and other transport groups would have a lesser incentive to introduce services in direct competition. Could just be that we could win our market share back.

Now, this is playing both ends of the probability curve. It could be up to the trade to influence which one synopsis would apply. A trade prepared to promote itself would be able to drive the market forward, in the face of competition.

And the investment in the professionalism of the driver, through real quality controls, would be the backbone of success.

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What a load of bo11ocks. :lol:

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And there was me thinking this thread was entitled "FUEL SITUATION."

What a fool I am...It's yet another "Edinburgh takes over the world" thread!!

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cabbyman wrote:
And there was me thinking this thread was entitled "FUEL SITUATION."

What a fool I am...It's yet another "Edinburgh takes over the world" thread!!

:evil: :evil: :evil:



We didn't want to disappoint you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Now what about the Universe? :D

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To try and get this thread back on track, diesel is now approximately £5.70 a gallon, and if it keeps on going up, those who have a TX of any kind could be finding it harder to justify running them as I belive that they only do about quote GBC, 23 24 to the gallon, and the public can only take so many fare rises, so there could be quite a few going under if there council will not let them use the other types of cabs or even saloons


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If fuel reaches £2 a litre, trust me Mr Skippy, I'll have no problem returning the cab and concentrating time on my other little business enterprise.

But then the whole country will be heading for dire straights by that stage.

Loaf of bread Sir?

That'll be £2.34 please.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:56 am 
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jasbar wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
whys the price going up?....the cost of refining hasnt, greedy, greedy petrol stations....its not on...1200 workers whining about contributing a measily 6% towards a gold plated pension...and a shut down which could cost the country billions of pounds in lost manufacturing of all goods and disruptin all other services...line em up and fire them one by one...any one got any sympathy for these strikers that are striking even though they earn more a year than we could ever dream of earning..arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!


Supply and demand. The supply goes down, the demand remains the same or increases, the price goes up. Simple as.

The interesting thing is that by and large de-restriction wouldn't necessarily mean an increase in supply of taxis. At least not directly correlated to the number of vehicles licensed. That's because a taxi is of absolutely no use without a driver.

So it is the driver that becomes the key element in the supply/demand curve.

The number of drivers remains the same, supply stays the same, the price stays the same, demand stays the same, earnings stay the same.

Of course, there may be some adjustment here because the hours worked by drivers may vary at the edges. Owners may have to work a bit longer. Drivers operating on their own may iniutially want to work on. But this would soon settle down as drivers mostly returned to their previous working regimes. And owners revised their rentals to reduce the incentive for drivers to leave and operate their own vehicle.

No real change, no real effect on work levels.

Interestingly, there is an argument that increased supply, improved service level, could justify an increase in price. Under the right conditions we could see an improvement in the working conditions of drivers who could meet their income needs in a shorter time because of a higher tariff.

Of course, in the price/demand/supply curve, any price increase could reduce demand and we'd be back to square one. However, it could just be that if there was a more readily available supply of taxis, then more people might just be persuaded to use them, particularly at peak times. Any increase in demand here could lead to a containment of price, perhaps even a reduction. The trade would benefit from more bums on seats, and other transport groups would have a lesser incentive to introduce services in direct competition. Could just be that we could win our market share back.

Now, this is playing both ends of the probability curve. It could be up to the trade to influence which one synopsis would apply. A trade prepared to promote itself would be able to drive the market forward, in the face of competition.

And the investment in the professionalism of the driver, through real quality controls, would be the backbone of success.

:wink:


What a load of bo11ocks. :lol:


Another erudite response from a complete tit.

Grow up grandad. If you can argue against the point do it. Just don't show your ignorance with such puerile, childish petulance.

It's like having to deal with babies.

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No It's definatly bo11ocks. This thread is about the fuel situation and you hi-jack it to go on about de limitation.

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With petrol costing only 7 cents a gallon in Venezuela it makes one wonder who much petrol would be in an independent Scotland that wasn't subsidising the rest of the UK

Venezuela

Oil revenue cover up

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Renfrewshire Driver wrote:
With petrol costing only 7 cents in Venezuela it makes one wonder who much petrol would be in an independent Scotland that wasn't susidising the rest of the UK

Venezuela

Oil revenue cover up


How much of the oil is owned by Scotish companies?

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grandad wrote:
Renfrewshire Driver wrote:
With petrol costing only 7 cents in Venezuela it makes one wonder who much petrol would be in an independent Scotland that wasn't susidising the rest of the UK

Venezuela

Oil revenue cover up


How much of the oil is owned by Scotish companies?

How much venezuellan oil was owned by venezuellan companies until their govt nationalised it?

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