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Are these cars hacks or PH? The Mansfield licensing chap I was talking to said that the chap was using his Bolsover PH operators license and Bolsover PH cars.

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Grandad,

I made a few enquiries and there are now at least 5 Mansfield operators, operating Bolsover and ASHFIELD (Nigel) private hire vehicles from there bases in Mansfield. The Bolsover Operators licence is from the Mansfield bases, but the Ashfield ops license is from a free phone in chippys ect in Ashfield and answered at the Mansfield bases?

should have been LG(MP)A 1976, s46(1)(e)
LG(MP)A 1976, s80(2)

They are using both PH and Hackney plates

They are using both PH and Hackney plates.

Mmmm I like the one about the chippy in Ashfield. As for 5 firms operating Bolsover plates that's even worse then before.

Like I posted before they are trying to prove a point with the Council.

Then he is doing nowt wrong!!!

Let's face it; if he was doing naughties, the Mansfield LO would have had him in Court ages ago!!

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Can't understand how Bolsover has issued an Operator Licence to an address outside their area.

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That section means that an operator licensed under section 55 must use licensed drivers & vehicles & that’s obvious.


That section means that the licences all have to match, i.e. vehicle, driver & operator licences. But that’s agreed & we are not discussing that.

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the fact remains that the overall decision of the Courts has
been that it is unlawful for a private hire operator to sub-contract
work across borders, whatever the circumstances of the initial contract.
The initial view held in Choudhry and Dittah, and upheld in all the
cases since then, is that once an operator's licence is issued, it is
unlawful for that private hire operator to use any other private hire vehicle or
driver than those licensed by the same authority; but that once so
licensed,the car and driver may be used to pick up and drop off anywhere
in the country.

Mansfields own conditions dont allow it,so if it was ok why put a condition of license that says its not?

check item 3

MANSFIELD DISTRICT COUNCIL
LOCAL GOVERNMENT (MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS) ACT 1976
PRIVATE HIRE OPERATOR’S
CONDITIONS OF LICENCE
The Operator shall observe and perform the following terms and conditions:
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
1. No operator of a private hire vehicle which is licensed by Mansfield District Council under this Act shall invite or accept a booking for such vehicle, or control or arrange a journey to be undertaken by such vehicle, without first making available in writing or giving orally, to the person making the booking information as to basis of charge for the hire of the vehicle.
2. Every Operator of private hire vehicles who accepts a booking for a private hire vehicle for an appointed time and place, shall give the booking to a vehicle, allowing sufficient time for the vehicle to punctually attend.
3. The Operator, when accepting bookings under the terms and conditions of the licence, shall only operate drivers and vehicles licensed by Mansfield District Council.

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do they use berwick private hire in newcastle the same way as the berwick hackneys?

The problem in Mansfield is akin to the problems in Newcastle with Berwick plates.

Their conditions are correct but you can subcontract out.CROSS BORDER WORKING
�� Cross Border Working has in the past caused concern to many in the taxi
trade and a number of false impressions have grown up as to the rules
which apply.
�� The rules are as follows:-
• Call made in borough 1 direct to firm in borough 1 who carry out the
contract: legal
• Call made in borough 1 direct to firm in borough 1 who sub-contracts
to another firm in borough 1: legal
• Call made in borough 1 direct to firm in borough 1 who sub-contracts
to another firm not in borough 1: not legal•
Call made in borough 1 direct to firm in borough 2 who carry out the
contract: legal• Call made in borough 1 direct to firm in borough 2 who sub-contracts
to another firm in borough 2: legal
• Call made in borough 1 direct to firm in borough 2 who sub-contracts
to another firm not in borough 2: not legal.

It all depends on how/were the call originated. Bold black is the one ppl are concerned with, but the blue type is what may be happening if phones were on divert. Difficult one to find out and who cares anyway!

The reason why I care is that if nothing was done the trade would go on a downward spiral of deteriorating standards, as to compete with sh**, on an equal level, you must become sh** yourself.

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