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who????are you talking about

and if its a right it cant be taken from you....but a plate can be taken from you even incorporated ones, you silly boy.
and you can never own it simples

I've never been a fan of restriction purely on financial merit that would mean any idiot with some cash and no interest in the trade could get a plate

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

An idiot with cash, is a prerequisite of buying into the trade. Effectively, gambling on finance to buy yourself a job. Renting to a driver is your way of spreading the risk. Then it's about keeping your fingers crossed in the hope you might get the chance to sell to some mug, releasing you from your burden. Meanwhile, your council holds you by the balls controlling almost your every move.


I think Dougie and Fairplay, call the above being a businessman, owning a plate and making an investment into your trade.

You see. That's what I love about Dougie Broown and John Lawson, they are inbred for the job. It's genetic.

I have to admit, Toots is correct, if you make it a financial entry all you do is take the job and remove it from the the sort of fella who would normally do it, so in the end you have Baron after Baron rubbing it together with glee charging enormous rent because he's the only one who can afford to license a car, so in this case FP I do think there is a flaw in that thinking.

The only real way to keep it honest is one man one license/plate, if you're not going to drive the car then you shouldn't have any right to hold a plate.

I can agree with that, but a numerical restriction is not the answer either. It has to be quality and not quantity controls. It's the only fair way to regulate.

Problem is the baron would get round that as well, he'd simply start licensing in the drivers names and still charge a ransom each week, man is a virus, you hit him with a cure one week and he's back soon after with a new strain of rule bending.

I’ve said this before in another post, but here goes again. I’ve driven Taxis for just over 13 years. the first 10 I rented, then “bought in”. It was that or continue to rent. The auld guy I got the Cab from worked part time for the first 6 months. It’s only been me since then. (Baron ?). Get your facts right Doom, It’s only Skull that keeps using the “Business man” term. Ask him about his “business” of selling mugs and T-shirts. Ask him how successful that “Business” was. The guy has failed at everything he has been involved in. He’s bitter and twisted, and I hope you would agree that the bile he comes out with says more about him than the folk he targets.

That's rubbish, as the same qualified drivers would be doing the same job driving their own taxi.

Problem is the baron would get round that as well, he'd simply start licensing in the drivers names and still charge a ransom each week, man is a virus, you hit him with a cure one week and he's back soon after with a new strain of rule bending.[/quote]

That's rubbish, as the same qualified drivers would be doing the same job driving their own taxi. [/quote]


Not if you can't get a loan you won't, nor will you if you want to be O/D and have the right to walk away at any given time.

I'm not talking about you FP, try 7 ppl owning 600 PHC between them, this is what I want stopped.

I don't understand this at all how do 7 ppl own 600 PHC can't anybody license a PHV in your manner

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

It's happened over the last 15 years, a guy arrived on the scene and was taking over the payments of cars that drivers no longer wanted, he went to the wall because although he had the ideas he was a lousy businessman who eventually ended up with a fleet that wasn't paying in due to his manager letting them off each week with hard luck stories, anyway as he left a couple of lads formed a partnership and grew, this inspired others to do the same and we are now plagued with them going to eastern Europe to recruit, the life expectancy of these recruits is 14 days before they work it out and return home, by which time the Barons have recruited more drivers to go through the mill of lies, one was actually convicted of human trading and did time, this one is of Asian descent and guess who he was trading and from where can't you, and they weren't cabbies he was trading either, yet his fleet remains because like all clever folk he found a way around it, and the council couldn't face the loss of 150 renewals each year and were frightened to act in case the card was pulled on them, I know the LO's would have no problem removing him, but upstairs it's political and ultimately it's upstairs who gets their way.

Since the boom in drivers, the PH car count has gone from 200 to 999, with 2500 badge holders to drive them, this is a perfect model to me of what would happen if the area became a free for all, and the end result is the customer gets a car quicker, but it's not a safe car, the driver will be hammering it to get to the next job all the time and customer care will/has become a Dodo, yes I said Dodo

Taxi and Ph are two different licensed business models servicing the same public, doing essentially the same job.

Driving a taxi is subject to a qualification whereas driving a Ph is not.

You no longer have a restricted market in the true sense of the word. What you have is simply more of one and less of the other depending on restriction.

If the taxi fleet loses its numerical presence in the market, they also lose their ability to compete and as a consequence, their share of the market. The Ph fleet increases exponentially.

This is happening in Edinburgh.

The taxi trades focus is on plate "values" and not competing with the competition. Over the last ten years, it's turned driving a taxi into a low-paid industry for everyone concerned.
This is what restriction has achieved.

The above is the truth of the situation, only a fool would want to believe otherwise.

Taxis are WAV, PH are not. But you’re right Skull, there are too many PH. If the council are serious about traffic management and having a cleaner envoirnment, then they should be restricted too. The only people that gain from more PH are the few “Owners”.