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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:22 am 
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Illusion ,raw nerve,my my im hurt.So youve actually been here gusmac wow was that you in the anorak taxi spotting ? I struggle to understand your points though as in lets open up the trade so theres more taxis than people actually need for the majority of the time ? Is that about it ? Also this is your concern because you feel for your fellow drivers ? Ok get you now sorry for any offence caused ,numpty.


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:51 am 
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I'm detecting anger issues in you Gusmac, are you alright my old son, you should see someone about that, don't want you turning like Mr Bird did do we, your no good to the PH Freedom Fighter Resistance dead are you :wink:


Funny that anyone who disagrees with you has to be a PH driver, does the job part-time, doesn't have the bottle to work nights, runs a clapped-out old motor, has a defective personality, blah, blah :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:08 am 
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OOOOOOH yeah, so making it easy to get a free plate is going to help the treasury save money then is it? NO! all it will do is increase an already saturated workplace.

If the workplace becomes saturated (some would say it already is) it will be because for years, any fool could get a badge.
A situation which so far has suited the barons, including one plate barons like blackpool. It's made getting drivers easy and driven up rentals through competition.
His illusion is dependant on having a driver to pay him rental. Even if they don't delimit, the plate value is unsustainable without an over supply of drivers. Drivers who couldn't afford to play the game without state aid.

Withdrawing tax credits from the bogus self employed would save the treasury billions every year. Why would they care if the workplace is saturated?
No state crutch and your saturation problem would ease considerably. How many barons could afford to pay the minimum wage with sick/holiday/maternity pay etc to PAYE drivers?

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I'm detecting anger issues in you Gusmac, are you alright my old son, you should see someone about that, don't want you turning like Mr Bird did do we, your no good to the PH Freedom Fighter Resistance dead are you :wink:


Your talking pish again.
Thanks for your concern doom, but I am perfectly calm. You mistake my cynical views for anger.
Blackpool is a worried man, like most who have ploughed cash into a plate illusion. He's not angry, though he may become so if his worst nightmares come to pass.
Take a look in the mirror doom, there you will see rage and anger.
Have you tried CBT BTW? I'm told it's very good.

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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:12 am 
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Illusion ,raw nerve,my my im hurt.So youve actually been here gusmac wow was that you in the anorak taxi spotting ? I struggle to understand your points though as in lets open up the trade so theres more taxis than people actually need for the majority of the time ? Is that about it ? Also this is your concern because you feel for your fellow drivers ? Ok get you now sorry for any offence caused ,numpty.


I wonder who's going to be the numpty when your chickens come home to roost?

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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:09 pm 
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Whether they dereg or not its served me well over 25years plus,dont do full time drivers never have and as for a oversupply of them i dont think so there is allways rentals available.By the way gusmac you seemike the sort of bloke who would be well suited to running the driver trIning courses.I admire your tireless campaigning for your collegues and your enthusiasm for taxis in general.Hip Hip for gusmac :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Whether they dereg or not its served me well over 25years plus,dont do full time drivers never have and as for a oversupply of them i dont think so there is allways rentals available.By the way gusmac you seemike the sort of bloke who would be well suited to running the driver trIning courses.I admire your tireless campaigning for your collegues and your enthusiasm for taxis in general.Hip Hip for gusmac :lol:


I have no need for a new avenue through which to fleece my fellow drivers. More up your street methinks.
You'll need another income when your driver has gone to work at tesco and your plate value/retirement fund is worth fek all.

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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
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When my driver goes another comes along in your words, as for when my licence goes ive had my moneys worth anyway,its more whoever comes into the job i would feel for STOP im begining to sound like you ffs.Hear people like you all the time spouting the same old shi*e,you need to relax maybe come to blackpool again for some TLC xx


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:13 pm 
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When my driver goes another comes along in your words,

Not my words. Try reading again.
No limit, no pool of drivers. No benefits, no cheap labour.

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its more whoever comes into the job i would feel for STOP im begining to sound like you ffs.

Careful, you might be starting to see beyond the end of your nose :lol:

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Hear people like you all the time spouting the same old shi*e,

Likewise. This a common one:
as for when my licence goes ive had my moneys worth anyway
Mind you, they normally say if, rather than when :wink:

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Not likely.
My Granny died a few years back, she was the only one who liked the place :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:17 pm 
gusmac wrote:
Doom wrote:
OOOOOOH yeah, so making it easy to get a free plate is going to help the treasury save money then is it? NO! all it will do is increase an already saturated workplace.

If the workplace becomes saturated (some would say it already is) it will be because for years, any fool could get a badge.
A situation which so far has suited the barons, including one plate barons like blackpool. It's made getting drivers easy and driven up rentals through competition.
His illusion is dependant on having a driver to pay him rental. Even if they don't delimit, the plate value is unsustainable without an over supply of drivers. Drivers who couldn't afford to play the game without state aid.

Withdrawing tax credits from the bogus self employed would save the treasury billions every year. Why would they care if the workplace is saturated?
No state crutch and your saturation problem would ease considerably. How many barons could afford to pay the minimum wage with sick/holiday/maternity pay etc to PAYE drivers?

Doom wrote:
I'm detecting anger issues in you Gusmac, are you alright my old son, you should see someone about that, don't want you turning like Mr Bird did do we, your no good to the PH Freedom Fighter Resistance dead are you :wink:


Your talking pish again.
Thanks for your concern doom, but I am perfectly calm. You mistake my cynical views for anger.
Blackpool is a worried man, like most who have ploughed cash into a plate illusion. He's not angry, though he may become so if his worst nightmares come to pass.
Take a look in the mirror doom, there you will see rage and anger.
Have you tried CBT BTW? I'm told it's very good.




Thankyou Gus, you just proved how ignorant you really are to the whole situation

If you have lots of people earning 5k pa you will find they will be claiming tax credits cos nobody can live on £100 pw or less these days, that's a bullet in that afaik.

I like Blackpool have been in this job for 25 years as well, I've had my plate 14 years and I gave 4 figures for it, each year I've had it it has saved me on average about £4-5k pa not having to be on a circuit, so 14x4 = £56000 14x5 = £70000, not a bad return overall, so should your crusade against big bad me ever come to be I'm still well infront of my outlay, plus my outlay should it go south is tax deductable if I hand the plate back due to it having no value, but over the years our plates have averaged 15 - 35k depending on the climate, as a lot have changed hands over the last 5 years and most of them in the 30k plus region that's a lot of money the tasx man is going to be missing should they become worthless, on my figures it's about £3M just here, wait until the rest of the country knows it's got a capital loss deduction due to it, ooooh I can see the Brighton boys wedging it in for £60k per unit in January, and I know you think I don't know what I'm on about, but think on mate, I had an investigation some years ago where they disqualified my allowances for the plate and I had to cough what I'd already claimed back, but he did tell me infront of witnesses that I was entitiled to either a loss deduction or the original amount would not be taxable if I made a profit on it, so all in all although it might look like to you I have something to lose like Blackpool I have had something out of mine, it's the guys who've stumped up recently I care about more, and PT drivers aren't an issue either, I'd rather a 3 day week man than a 7 day one all day and night long.


So, you carry on, you are going to cost the state something like £200M in lost revenue, and I've not even told you the loophole that leaves the government in limbo regarding being sued for asset theft yet, but it's there and I have it ready to at the very least get back my money, if not my money and future earnings that won't be there, you've heard of Human Rights haven't you, well it swings both ways and as I'm pig sick of the wrong people using it to their advantage I think it's time to put it to use for my benefit real soon.

Happy day to you and your clan of clinger bums.


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:52 pm 
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Doom wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Doom wrote:
OOOOOOH yeah, so making it easy to get a free plate is going to help the treasury save money then is it? NO! all it will do is increase an already saturated workplace.

If the workplace becomes saturated (some would say it already is) it will be because for years, any fool could get a badge.
A situation which so far has suited the barons, including one plate barons like blackpool. It's made getting drivers easy and driven up rentals through competition.
His illusion is dependant on having a driver to pay him rental. Even if they don't delimit, the plate value is unsustainable without an over supply of drivers. Drivers who couldn't afford to play the game without state aid.

Withdrawing tax credits from the bogus self employed would save the treasury billions every year. Why would they care if the workplace is saturated?
No state crutch and your saturation problem would ease considerably. How many barons could afford to pay the minimum wage with sick/holiday/maternity pay etc to PAYE drivers?

Doom wrote:
I'm detecting anger issues in you Gusmac, are you alright my old son, you should see someone about that, don't want you turning like Mr Bird did do we, your no good to the PH Freedom Fighter Resistance dead are you :wink:


Your talking pish again.
Thanks for your concern doom, but I am perfectly calm. You mistake my cynical views for anger.
Blackpool is a worried man, like most who have ploughed cash into a plate illusion. He's not angry, though he may become so if his worst nightmares come to pass.
Take a look in the mirror doom, there you will see rage and anger.
Have you tried CBT BTW? I'm told it's very good.




Thankyou Gus, you just proved how ignorant you really are to the whole situation

If you have lots of people earning 5k pa you will find they will be claiming tax credits cos nobody can live on £100 pw or less these days, that's a bullet in that afaik.

I like Blackpool have been in this job for 25 years as well, I've had my plate 14 years and I gave 4 figures for it, each year I've had it it has saved me on average about £4-5k pa not having to be on a circuit, so 14x4 = £56000 14x5 = £70000, not a bad return overall, so should your crusade against big bad me ever come to be I'm still well infront of my outlay, plus my outlay should it go south is tax deductable if I hand the plate back due to it having no value, but over the years our plates have averaged 15 - 35k depending on the climate, as a lot have changed hands over the last 5 years and most of them in the 30k plus region that's a lot of money the tasx man is going to be missing should they become worthless, on my figures it's about £3M just here, wait until the rest of the country knows it's got a capital loss deduction due to it, ooooh I can see the Brighton boys wedging it in for £60k per unit in January, and I know you think I don't know what I'm on about, but think on mate, I had an investigation some years ago where they disqualified my allowances for the plate and I had to cough what I'd already claimed back, but he did tell me infront of witnesses that I was entitiled to either a loss deduction or the original amount would not be taxable if I made a profit on it, so all in all although it might look like to you I have something to lose like Blackpool I have had something out of mine, it's the guys who've stumped up recently I care about more, and PT drivers aren't an issue either, I'd rather a 3 day week man than a 7 day one all day and night long.


So, you carry on, you are going to cost the state something like £200M in lost revenue, and I've not even told you the loophole that leaves the government in limbo regarding being sued for asset theft yet, but it's there and I have it ready to at the very least get back my money, if not my money and future earnings that won't be there, you've heard of Human Rights haven't you, well it swings both ways and as I'm pig sick of the wrong people using it to their advantage I think it's time to put it to use for my benefit real soon.

Happy day to you and your clan of clinger bums.


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:04 pm 
No dream about it, if you listened as well as you typed you might improve your knowledge.

Everything I listed is true, but you wouldn't know that would you because you don't go any deeper than the first layer do you.

Lemme tell you something, your's and Sussex' dream of being able to get a saloon plate anytime you want one will never come true, at best you may get to get a WAV plate, saloons are already well supplied, it's more WAV's they want not saloons, but had you paid attention you'd know that, so unless you have £25k + sitting around your still not getting in.


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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Doom wrote:
No dream about it, if you listened as well as you typed you might improve your knowledge.

Everything I listed is true, but you wouldn't know that would you because you don't go any deeper than the first layer do you.

Lemme tell you something, your's and Sussex' dream of being able to get a saloon plate anytime you want one will never come true, at best you may get to get a WAV plate, saloons are already well supplied, it's more WAV's they want not saloons, but had you paid attention you'd know that, so unless you have £25k + sitting around your still not getting in.


Your the one who doesn't pay attention Doom. I already have a plate. How many times does it take to sink into your thick skull?
Plates in Scotland can't be sold, so £25k would do you no good here.

Now, shall I improve your knowledge? Most of what you wrote is utter bollux.

Officially, your plate is worth fek all, except maybe the administration fees involved.
Nobody is depriving you of it, you can keep it if you want.
You bought it attached to a cab which was probably worth little more than fek all.
You paid a ridiculous sum, well over the combined value of both based on your perceived valuation. That was your choice, nobody else's.
You were well aware that the council could issue more plates at any time. You accepted that risk when you paid up. (Caveat Emptor BTW :wink: )
So, unless your plate came with a guilt edged guarantee that your council would never issue more licences, you're screwed.
Nobody owes you jack, especially if as you say, you've already had your money back in spades.

My apologies for the short reply earlier, I had to stop laughing and wipe the coffee off the monitor. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:46 pm 
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Oh, and at best, HMRC would give you a Capital Gains loss based on the price you paid.
This would probably be subject to depreciation. After 3 or 4 years, it would be worthless.

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 Post subject: Re: Aberdeen SUD survey
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:15 pm 
Nope, as usual you have got it wrong.

I am entitled to the cost of me setting up originally should I choose to dispose of the plate if it has no value

I bought in a de-regulated market, why do you think we re-regulated fool.....derrr lack of work too many cabs, no money

I never say I own the physical plate, I say I own the right to use it

It's the same as a car, you claim what it cost you less it's residual, if the residual is zero then you claim 100% of the derpeciation which in turn is the full amount.

I still doubt you have a plate, infact I think you are an envious driver myself who wants one but won't ante up for one, if you do have one why would you want more competition.

No plate is ever sold mate, it's transferred by way of partnership.

More and more, you and 4 others on here are revealling themselves to be what you actually are, I can tell you more about things but I'm not going to, but lets just say certain parties are aware of what is best, and the tide is changing back to regulation because a world without rules is a world in chaos, and they unlike you are smart enough to realise that.

I'll wait for the next dismissive reply from you where Gusworld knows all about all shall I ?


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Not getting personal, but you sure have a lot to say for someone who "cant be arsed"so back to your view of taxi utopia.Tell me when did you have this vision that more taxis means better for everyone in the trade ? Was it at a meeting or did it just come in your sleep(excuse the pun gusmac).Also a bit strange you being a big bad plate holder wanting more you are a one off gusmac.Sorry to hear blackpools no more for you,maybe a more genteel clientele would suit,someone to mop your brow whilst you dream of ......


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