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hehe Cap will suffice

In case you never noticed, I was actually defending the position of status quo.

with regards to the monies paid, I can remember a tesco carries bag coming into our offices 20 years ago with a considerable sum of money in, far more money than the X reg cab was worth.

Ahh, memories.

More seriously, I understand that there are certain places and people in certain cities that advertise finance of cabs and plates, may I suggest you obtain a magazine such as taxitalk and make a couple of enquiries.



Tell me about it, I spent most of this morning defending it, where I usually spend my day condemning it.



So Les never got the plate then?

Captain cab

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If you doubt the prices being paid for black-market plates, then why not ring the councils, or the large taxi operators, on JD's list. Didn't Mr Cgull just say he could get a bag full of cash for his plate?

As for the site being obsessed with plates being bought and sold, I believe you are wrong. There are 187 threads under the restricted numbers heading, and 1234 threads under the rest.

As for your last point, the DVLA don't restrict the quantity of number plates, although your point would be a bit more valid if councils charged fortunes for taxi plates.

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IDFIMH

If you doubt the prices being paid for black-market plates, then why not ring the councils, or the large taxi operators, on JD's list. Didn't Mr Cgull just say he could get a bag full of cash for his plate?

Sussex

why do you keep useing the term (BLACK-MARKET PLATES),do you think that it is illegal to sell a licence.if so then you had better tell the inland rvenue,that they are involved in an illegal practice taxing people when they sell them ,or are you one who does not pay tax????????
mrT.

I used to use the words grey-market, but it appears that many councils and the gov now use the words black-market, so I will go along with that.

As for the inland revenue, well if more than 1% of all plate sells are registered with the inland revenue, then I will be truely amazed.

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IDFIMH

Well I dont know about you guys, but if I bought a business from someone, I'd certainly want a receipt.

Black market / Grey Market is this a hair colour thing? and is there a bald market thats discrimination that

Captain cab

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No cab .just someone using a incorrect term that makes a every day transaciton look as if it is (SHADY), which is what I think it is supposed to do .............mrT.........

Good point about the number plate Jimbo, but I can't really see the connection with buying and selling taxi plates.

As Mr T said, they are everyday transactions, so you can hardly downplay them in the way you seem to do.

You use a low plate values area and use this as evidence that the higher values do not exist. That's like using the market for coal to say that people aren't paying high prices for gold.

Have a look at the evidence to the Trans Comm meeting on the Parliament website.

Someone submitted evidence saying that the total worth of plates in the UK was nearly a billion pounds, and he was using this as evidence to retain restrictions.

Have a look at the figures on the database and you'll see that even with some of the higher values the total is nothing like a billion.

The values given are a reality - just because they are low in some areas (or zilch in most!) doesn't make them wrong.

Even your beloved Halcrow often give the value of plates in the local market at the prices that you don't believe.

I would phone your buddy Dr Pells

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The point I try to make to you is that if you popped up to my manor and made me an offer I could not refuse, I would be refusing anything below £70,000. In reality here, I'd be doing well to get £3,000. I think there is a bit of "Myth & Reality" about plate values. If someone you know has paid 50K for a plate, and 30K for a Cab and 3K for insurance, I'd just Love to hear about it. This site really is full of dreamers, isn't it?
On my comparison with number plates, they are sold on e-bay, yet surely the goverment "own" them. The "BEATLES" numberplate, sold on by the DVLA, is clearly meant to be displayed in an illegal manner. Think about it, DVLA sell you a "Cherished Number" for 20K, and the police prosecute you for displaying it.

The article written by the reiver was well thought out and this thread doesn't deserve to be hijacked by plate values.

Although the article posed many questions I don't think plate values was one of them. There are already plenty of threads on this site concerning plate values.

However for those interested in purchasing a plate, the following list is a guide as to what you may have to pay in the listed Authorities.

Council Plate value Quota Total value

Liverpool £40,000 1417 £56,680,000
Manchester £50,000 854 £42,700,000
Brighton and Hove ua £45,000 479 £21,555,000
Bradford £55,000 224 £12,320,000
Blackpool. £45,000 256 £11,520,000
Newcastle on Tyne no conditions £30,000 339 £10,170,000
Leeds No conditions £38,000 263 £9,994,000
Leeds with conditions £30,000 275 £8,250,000
Plymouth ua £20,000 359 £7,180,000
Newcastle on Tyne Conditions £15,000 441 £6,615,000
York ua £40,000 158 £6,320,000
Portsmouth £25,000 234 £5,850,000
Oldham £50,000 85 £4,250,000
Nottingham £10,000 415 £4,150,000
Knowsley £15,000 240 £3,600,000
Sefton £13,000 271 £3,523,000
Wigan £25,000 136 £3,400,000
Halton ua £12,000 267 £3,204,000
Tameside £20,000 143 £2,860,000
Preston £15,000 187 £2,805,000
Calderdale Halifax zone £70,000 37 £2,590,000
Stockport £22,000 114 £2,508,000
Trafford £22,000 103 £2,266,000
Eastbourne £25,000 84 £2,100,000
Chester £25,000 73 £1,825,000
Bath £20,000 90 £1,800,000
Salford £22,000 78 £1,716,000
Warrington £15,000 109 £1,635,000
Blackburn And Darwin £20,000 64 £1,280,000
Worthing £20,000 60 £1,200,000
Bolton £11,000 104 £1,144,000
Restormel £12,000 74 £888,000
St Helens £12,000 63 £756,000
Hastings £15,000 48 £720,000
Ellesmere Port £13,000 40 £520,000

£917,000 Total value £249,894,000

Thanks JD,

your absolutely correct it shouldnt have been hijacked in the manner it was.

Could I ask the moderator to remove all posts not connected with the article to either another thread, or completely.

hehe, Im doing a terrible job at having a go at M&R on another thread.

Regards

Captain cab

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he reivers article contains three mentions of plate values, so I thought it was part of the thread

I don't see the point in reiterating your point if you completely ignore mine Jimbo.

The values depend on each LA, so they may be low in some LAs, but that doesn't mean they'll be low in others. You could buy a house in some LAs for £30k, but cleary in others you'll pay several times this for the same house.

Are you saying that Dr Pells of Halcrow is dreaming as well, which seems strange since up the thread you were trumpeting him as the fountain of all knowledge.

The Brighton Halcrow report, for example, said:

'...the authority estimates that the current resale value of a HC license is in the region of £30,000.

That was a year or two ago now, values are a lot higher now.

A document produced by Halton council towards the end of last year gave the following values:

· Chester 20K/25K
· Warrington 10K/12K
· St Helens 7K/10K
· Sefton 20K/25K
· Knowsley 20K/25K
· E/Port 12K/13K
· Liverpool 50K/55K
· Stockport 12K/20K
· Manchester 55K+
· Blackpool 40K/45K

And these people are on your side!!!!

I think it's you that's the dreamer Jimbo

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To quote Tom Cruise, "Show me the Money!"

hehe Oscars night, you love your films Jimbo, I'll grant you that

Captain cab

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I think I'll just leave you in dreamland Jim

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