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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:29 pm 
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Well spoken Jimbo, the correct and only way of thinking on owning a plate
I applaud your way of thinking.


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skippy,

did you actually read what jimbo said?

he has said he doent give a stuff about the price of his plate and he doesnt believe they change hands for the amounts of money on JD's list.

If jimbo fails to believe this, he is living in denial.

As for the plate, damn, everyone knows its a mere permit, indeed anyone on here will tell you if a council so wish they can actually take THEIR permit from you if they think your not fit and proper even after you may have spent thousands for it.

By the same accord you could always buy and sell council issued parking permits (now theres an idea).

Permits do change hands for vast amounts of money, whether or not this is bad for the public is the only issue we all seem to disagree on (except jimbo)

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Skippy wrote:
Well spoken Jimbo, the correct and only way of thinking on owning a plate
I applaud your way of thinking.


Whats a plate worth down in Brighton Skippy?

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£40,000, £45,000 as a rule, but the last one to go was i'm told £48,000.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:50 pm 
I enjoyed Niges response!

seriously though behind those closed doors the councillors lot is not happy, he has to have due regard to the advice he is given by his advisors, who aint got a clue whats its like on the road.

I managed to get taxis in bus lanes, was enemy no one of the bus people!

I warned the trade that they had 5 years to get thier act toggether with Wavs or I would act, the electorate had other ideas :oops:

I instituted the misc provisions act with regard to private hire, and got my forcasts right.

I delegated lots of work to officers with regard to licenses and blemishes an act I regret to this day.

Its isnt easy john, and before you get the chance, you have to change your proffession, or you wont even get the chance


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captain cab wrote:
skippy,

did you actually read what jimbo said?

he has said he doent give a stuff about the price of his plate and he doesnt believe they change hands for the amounts of money on JD's list.

If jimbo fails to believe this, he is living in denial.

As for the plate, damn, everyone knows its a mere permit, indeed anyone on here will tell you if a council so wish they can actually take THEIR permit from you if they think your not fit and proper even after you may have spent thousands for it.

By the same accord you could always buy and sell council issued parking permits (now theres an idea).

Permits do change hands for vast amounts of money, whether or not this is bad for the public is the only issue we all seem to disagree on (except jimbo)

Captain cab


Captain, Captain, Captain. Where have I said I don't give a stuff about the price of my plate?

1) No one controls plate values. Market forces do.

2) To your everyday owner/driver, plate values are irrelevant. Disscussions amongst working O.D's may be how did you do last night?
Not my plates worth 50K, you know.

3) The only time a driver will be concerned for the value of a plate is at the beginning of his time in the trade, when he's a plate buyer, and when he's had enough and wants out, and becomes a seller. for the remaining 99.9999999999% of the time as an owner/driver plate values have NO RELEVANCE at all because he is a plate user. (Don't sidetrack into plate rental here, different issue)

Bit daft to misquote when the Quote is there for all to see Cap.


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for the remaining 99.9999999999% of the time as an owner/driver plate values have NO RELEVANCE at all because he is a plate user.

From my experience most plate-holders never stop mentioning their plate values. Maybe not as yours is quite small :oops: but where they are big, then they treat it as a pension, and an un-earned one at that.

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then they treat it as a pension


Did I ever tell you about my mate who was going to retire in 1996?

he was going to sell his cab and plate, and was expecting about £10k, he'd been a cab driver and owner since 1950.

The council delimited in 1995, and he got sweet FA, although he did say his cab and plate owed him nothing, he'd brought up his family, paid off his mortgage.

There no point to the story, just I think it leaves a taste of poo on the issue.

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then they treat it as a pension


Did I ever tell you about my mate who was going to retire in 1996?

he was going to sell his cab and plate, and was expecting about £10k, he'd been a cab driver and owner since 1950.

The council delimited in 1995, and he got sweet FA, although he did say his cab and plate owed him nothing, he'd brought up his family, paid off his mortgage.

There no point to the story, just I think it leaves a taste of poo on the issue.

Captain cab




Talking about mates I had one bought a post office borrowing heavily.

£150,000 he lost the lot too.

had a mate who bought a thriving mini market in a monopoly position, tesco opened opposite

life is full of risk.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:35 pm 
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From my experience most plate-holders never stop mentioning their plate values. Maybe not as yours is quite small :oops: but where they are big, then they treat it as a pension, and an un-earned one at that.


Please explaim how a plateholder who has a plate of high value obtained it, then you could go onto explain how the value of the plate is un-earned when a plateholder has paid for it, in most cases borrowed money to afford it.

You isolate a few drivers who got their plate for "free" then accuse the vast majority, who paid for their plate, of profiteering from it.

Unfair in the extreme, your argument is based on lies and misleading information not relevant to the truth, yet it backs up your pathetic quest to destroy some in order to obtain what you want.

B. Lucky :twisted:


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Please explaim how a plateholder who has a plate of high value obtained it, then you could go onto explain how the value of the plate is un-earned when a plateholder has paid for it, in most cases borrowed money to afford it.

Well you could start by reading the Wirral judgement to get the legal position.

This will show you that the plate value is un-earned, it gains value by a virtue of its 'scarcity value', nothing else.

One other thing, if a non-driver buys a plate from the black-market, how can he earn his plate value?

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Unfair in the extreme, your argument is based on lies and misleading information not relevant to the truth, yet it backs up your pathetic quest to destroy some in order to obtain what you want.

Well I take anything you say about lies with a large pinch of salt. You by your lies and your gutless behaviour in not admitting being taken in by Nigel have opened the eyes of many on here.

As for the misleading information, well if you think the High Court is misleading, in relation to plate values, then you best consult a solicitor to appeal it.

I think Nigel knows a few. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:03 pm 
You haven't answered the question of how the majority of plates have been ontained right accross the country.

How the attained their value is of little importance, what is important is their value has been bourne by those currently in possession in the vast majority of cases. Therefore your asumption and statements that the plates were obtained without cost are simply wrong, and put forward by you in an attempt to mislead.

B. Lucky :twisted:


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Therefore your asumption and statements that the plates were obtained without cost are simply wrong, and put forward by you in an attempt to mislead.

No, all plates are given for nothing.

Driver exchange business's for sums in restricted areas, which just happen to have a plate (owned by the council) attached.

Do you really expect me to defend those that have bypassed the waiting list?

Is that what being a union member stands for now. F*** the ordinary driver, unless he has vast sums of money? :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:20 am 
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How the attained their value is of little importance, what is important is their value has been bourne by those currently in possession in the vast majority of cases.

i got my plate by vitue of signimng a form every year.
Not that earned in my opinion.
If it was then every time i signed the form earned me about 4 grand a time. :shock:


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