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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:58 pm 
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IMO the council don't have to use one firm.

I council don't have to use one firm but they have a policy that states that it must be Pitts and as far as they are concerned until the policy is changed then Pitts it must be.




Mmmmmm I think a FOI request would be flying it's way over to the council by now.


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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:59 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
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IMO the council don't have to use one firm.

I council don't have to use one firm but they have a policy that states that it must be Pitts and as far as they are concerned until the policy is changed then Pitts it must be.




Mmmmmm I think a FOI request would be flying it's way over to the council by now.

Asking what? :?

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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:32 pm 
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grandad wrote:
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Mmmmmm I think a FOI request would be flying it's way over to the council by now.

Asking what? :?


Do they agree that their policy is the Pitts? :)


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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:52 pm 
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So are all you lot saying no meters get any attention, for whatever reason, form the meter fitters, between tariff changes?

Cos our local fitters are always resetting them. :?


Kerching.

Meter agents do the new tariff when it comes out and council seal the meter straight afterwards. They don't look at them again unless their is a fault. which is very rare.
Council test meters over a measured mile as part of the vehicle test twice a year. No calibration certificate required.

I asked why our meters are not checked over the measured mile and was told that it would cost us a lot of money if it were to be done.


Exactly what we were told.

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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:53 pm 
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Thought you might have asked why the council haven't tested and sealed, though.

I gathered it's because they are f***ing useless.

:lol: :lol: ](*,)

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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:55 pm 
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MR T wrote:
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So are all you lot saying no meters get any attention, for whatever reason, form the meter fitters, between tariff changes?

Cos our local fitters are always resetting them. :?

Most be bloody iffy down in Brighton 8-[


Probably the old clockwork meters down there. :badgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:02 pm 
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If the meter is correctly calibrated, there is no need to adjust it, even for a new fare.


I think you're being a bit pedantic as regards the word calibration.

I mean, are you trying to say that an agent updating a meter to a new tariff is totally foolproof?


Yes.

The meter in my E7 is set at 4,100 (I think) pulses per mile. If I took it out to put into a Metrocab, the pulse rate would have to be reset to the required pulse rate for that vehicle. Then, when the meter could accurately measure a mile, the tariff is inputted from a key rather like a memory stick, which the agent will have downloaded from the manufacturers secure website. He punches a few buttons, and Roberts your Mums Brother.

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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:39 pm 
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jimbo wrote:
The meter in my E7 is set at 4,100 (I think) pulses per mile. If I took it out to put into a Metrocab, the pulse rate would have to be reset to the required pulse rate for that vehicle. Then, when the meter could accurately measure a mile, the tariff is inputted from a key rather like a memory stick, which the agent will have downloaded from the manufacturers secure website. He punches a few buttons, and Roberts your Mums Brother.


Well no doubt there are lots of different procedures, but I know my meter agent updates manually and keys in around a dozen different figures, and if one is even slightly wrong then that can hugely affect the tariff shown.

Anyway, even if the updating is more automated you're assuming that the manufacturer won't make mistakes, and I'm not sure why anyone needs to be told that it's wrong to make that assumption.

There are certainly cases on here of calander controlled meters not showing the proper tariff at Christmas time, and I'm quite sure there are many other cases that will be rectified but not reported because it'll be apparent at an earlier stage that there's been a booboo.

And if many councils aren't even testing the meters properly - and, as I pointed out at the time, how can they test in advance that the correct tariff is being shown on a public holiday, say? - then no doubt there are other less obvious discrepancies that never come to light.


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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:01 pm 
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We have calender controlled meters and they are programmed a year or so in advance , never had a problem with them .If theres a extra bank holiday,say for queenie its alteres months in advance and sealed by agent.


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 Post subject: Re: meter tariff change
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:12 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
We have calender controlled meters and they are programmed a year or so in advance , never had a problem with them .If theres a extra bank holiday,say for queenie its alteres months in advance and sealed by agent.


Indeed I would imagine that most of the time they get it right, but on ocassion they self-evidently don't.

And, as I said, in some respects programming errors might not come to light at all, particularly if the meters aren't tested.


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