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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:01 pm 
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Its a word based on a sick individuals experiance working within an enviroment of profiteers profiting from individuals whom work within a limitless market of which the marketshare is determined by not the individual but at the individuals expense, the only trade i know where this goes on is the phc trade :wink:

Just my opinion, i may be wrong :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:17 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Its a word based on a sick individuals experiance working within an enviroment of profiteers profiting from individuals whom work within a limitless market of which the marketshare is determined by not the individual but at the individuals expense, the only trade i know where this goes on is the phc trade :wink:

Just my opinion, i may be wrong :wink:


Yes I think you are wrong Reggie, because I can't see much difference between the HC and PH trades in this regard.


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:50 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Its a word based on a sick individuals experiance working within an enviroment of profiteers profiting from individuals whom work within a limitless market of which the marketshare is determined by not the individual but at the individuals expense, the only trade i know where this goes on is the phc trade :wink:

Just my opinion, i may be wrong :wink:


Yes I think you are wrong Reggie, because I can't see much difference between the HC and PH trades in this regard.


It might not read obvious Binster but he is right, or to translate, lets go spend a large sum of money to go to work for someone who doesn't care unless you stop paying them for f'all.


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:06 am 
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It might not read obvious Binster but he is right, or to translate, lets go spend a large sum of money to go to work for someone who doesn't care unless you stop paying them for f'all.


You mean like an HC baron?


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:27 am 
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Jasbar wrote:
Cab reflects the whole of the licensed car trade. And that's as it should be.

Recent experience has shown me that those who fall just short of the higher taxi standard, are no less thinking, put upon and deserving individuals.

Those who work for the companies, whether PH or taxi, are equally deserving of consideration in the great scheme of things.

And there are no doubt PH firms out there who do recognise the value of their staff, and try to look after them.

However, my recent experience is that this is not so.

There is one commonality. And that is that in a restricted taxi trade, it's the driver who does the work who gets the bad deal. And its the PH driver in the company who is the last thought by owners.

And this is what our politicians have delivered.

While the Cardownies, with their connections and alleged PH interests, influence restriction maintenance, and the council protects it own transport interests with restriction, the lowest common denominator they achieve is the subjugation of a group of working people who have employment conditions redolent of the American slaves. And that is why the term serf is so poignant. Because it describes a standard that we're all supposed to be protected from.

On a wider issue, why would anyone want to vote for independence and hand complete control to a government party that is the architect of such worker abuse?



Abet, one might think, in their interests. :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:50 am 
Dusty Bin wrote:
Doom wrote:
It might not read obvious Binster but he is right, or to translate, lets go spend a large sum of money to go to work for someone who doesn't care unless you stop paying them for f'all.


You mean like an HC baron?


HC or PH, locally it's PH barons doing the damage, there isn't really a HC baron tbh, but that shows how things are different across the territories doesn't it.


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:20 am 
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Well it depends where you are, but in my experience and in places like Liverpool, Brighton and Edinburgh it seems that the HC trade will take on as many drivers as will work for them, irrespective of how much existing drivers are earning.

So no difference between HC and PH, except perhaps that the HC barons tend not to control so many vehicles individually, but as a whole there's little difference between them and PH.

If HC rental fodder do a little better than PH rental fodder then that's probably because it's usually a bit more difficult to get an HC badge as compared to a PH badge, but not always.


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:02 pm 
Dusty Bin wrote:
Well it depends where you are, but in my experience and in places like Liverpool, Brighton and Edinburgh it seems that the HC trade will take on as many drivers as will work for them, irrespective of how much existing drivers are earning.

So no difference between HC and PH, except perhaps that the HC barons tend not to control so many vehicles individually, but as a whole there's little difference between them and PH.

If HC rental fodder do a little better than PH rental fodder then that's probably because it's usually a bit more difficult to get an HC badge as compared to a PH badge, but not always.



And now can you see the danger of de-regulation Dusty? if you de-regulate they simply flood HC as well as PH, the answer is one license to one person and it needs to be upheld rigidly, it's a prime example of how free trade is abused by the advantage taker's, some would call it good business sense and to a degree it is, but it also turns the job into a slave ship.


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:01 pm 
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But as I said, in the areas I'm talking about HC is 'flooded' already anyway. Anyone can have a badge and anyone can get a drive, it's just that access to the tools of the trade is controlled.


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:32 pm 
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Edinburgh's HC trade is not saturated to that of Edinburgh's phc trade, Jasbar has worked both but only now he terms the word CBNGGR.

The Edinburgh HC trade is ticking over, a driver can still make a living but in the PH trade drivers are not, the profiteers are and at the individuals expense, De-restricting the HC trade in Edinburgh yes would render the PH trade insignificant but what would happen is the current problem of saturation/profiteering of the PH trade at the expense of the individual would overnight transfer in to the HC trade, you know the rich pickings of the streetwork in Edinburgh making my statment a gaurantee.

Jasbar has and alway's will be out to destroy a trade that is well regulated and does serve the Edinburgh public well, i go for controlled growth to render the saturated out of control PH trade, thats why the only true alternative that is proven is the medallion system that is now well spread throughout the world and the medallion system works to what it say's on the tin, it stops the saturation and infiltration by organised crims, in Edinburgh it would work more for the individual than say it does in New York.

The point as pointed out again by Doom, it proves that differences exist, justifying LA's the right to regulate as they the LA's see fit, no question. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
But as I said, in the areas I'm talking about HC is 'flooded' already anyway. Anyone can have a badge and anyone can get a drive, it's just that access to the tools of the trade is controlled.


So, why is this serf not working then?

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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
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Jasbar wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
But as I said, in the areas I'm talking about HC is 'flooded' already anyway. Anyone can have a badge and anyone can get a drive, it's just that access to the tools of the trade is controlled.


So, why is this serf not working then?


Because you're as popular as a fart in a spacesuit?

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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:06 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
But as I said, in the areas I'm talking about HC is 'flooded' already anyway. Anyone can have a badge and anyone can get a drive, it's just that access to the tools of the trade is controlled.


So, why is this serf not working then?


Because you're as popular as a fart in a spacesuit?


Ah, so it's a person's popularity which is the deciding factor when applying for a job as someone's serf. The fettering of access to your tools is merely a mechanism for denying you a political voice or opinion. It's all about forcing compliance and obedience to vested interests.

Now why didn't I, think of that? :-|


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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:42 pm 
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Well we can all be proud of our society then?

We live in a system that discriminates against those who express their political opinion.

And there was me thinking that only applied to the cold war countries.

Sounds like another article of Human Rights is being breached.

Time for a lawyer methinks.

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 Post subject: Re: cabni**** Wanted!!
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Skull wrote:
Ah, so it's a person's popularity which is the deciding factor when applying for a job as someone's serf. The fettering of access to your tools is merely a mechanism for denying you a political voice or opinion. It's all about forcing compliance and obedience to vested interests.

Now why didn't I, think of that? :-|

Thats a bit complicated for the average Joe with a cab to rent out, Skull.

Jim asked a question, I answered it.
He's not exactly popular among cab owners now is he?

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