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London Uncensored · **Joined:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm **Posts:** 107

Sussex wrote:

London Uncensored wrote:

Answers to questions:

1. Private Hire/mini-cabs cannot ply for hire.
2. Private Hire/mini-cabs cannot ply for hire.
3. Yes, it is an illegal rank. Private Hire cannot sit on a public highway for the purpose of immediate hiring.
4. Yes, TOUTING.
5. Plying illegally for hire, TOUTING and driving with no insurance.

They might be answers to some questions, but they aren't answers to the questions you posed.

Methinks you need to read a few proper books and stop taking what you read on blogs as being a true reflection of the law.

You are living in a dreamworld.

And you are just an idiot that lives in a small village.

The question posted by Tooter was:

Quote:

There is no definitive description for plying for hire

I gave several or more scenarios that revolve around the premise of "Plying for hire ! " These questions lead answers that definitively describe plying for hire !

There is no point in getting angry. For your information Alan Fleming was Chairman of the London Cab Drivers Club (LCDC) for many years, I know this man personally. He is recognised by the London Taxi trade as one of the foremost authorities on Hackney Carriage law, he has studied case laws in grate detail and has written scores of articles on this subject that have been published in the London Taxi trade press. He has even challenged TH Button ! In over twenty five years as a London Taxi driver, to my knowledge... Nobody has challenged him on his articles.... Except you !

You know little to nothing about Hackney Carriage Law and have misquoted me to try and regain some credibility.
You and others are not interested in a debate... You are far more interested in your over inflated ego's and abuse !

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Sussex said: We get one a year on here like you

When you refer to "we" ... are you referring to the other abusers posting derogatory remarks on this thread to turn the debate into an argument?

London Uncensored · **Joined:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm **Posts:** 107

Sussex wrote:

London Uncensored wrote:

I doubt it. What you drive are the sh*t carts that used to be driven by professionally trained drivers in London. You drive what were taxi's :badgrin:

Oh dear, I often wonder why London cabbies are always at each others throats, you give an example why.

Lose an argument, have a pop at those opposing your views.

Yet another fool who thinks having a good memory makes you a good cabby.

No sunshine. Taking a pop back at someone trying to abuse me !

As for losing the argument. After posting what you have in response to the questions I asked. Have you no shame at being ignorant of the laws that pertain to your job ?

Chris the Fish · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:31 pm

Sussex and I disagree on a lot of things - but he aint ignorant.

Someone is though.

captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:34 pm

London Uncensored wrote:

No sunshine. Taking a pop back at someone trying to abuse me !

Perhaps you better read the following thread from 3 years ago before you start telling us of the virtues of Mr Fleming?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12823

And read it to the end.....and perhaps ask the chap from Birmingham if Alan really did save Birmingham.......and perhaps ask yourself if you've got an age policy in London.....and if you have, ask yourself why?

Acars21 · **Joined:** Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:02 pm **Posts:** 26

toots wrote:

London Uncensored wrote:

Where are the vehicles waiting to accept hirings ?

Are they on full view at any time ?

There is plenty of room on Duke Street for some of the vehicles to return to base if necessary and wait for a job to be dispatched. Chances are though they'll wait where they're already waiting although there's plenty of room on Duke Street for them to return to base while they wait to be dispatched

I have consulted the Northwests leading authority on taxi legislation he says this quote;

Plying for hire in a public place is established case law, anything other than a hackney carriage such as a private hire vehicle has to be pre booked through a licensed operator. Any vehicle accompanied by a driver other than a hackney carriage, found exhibiting itself to the public with the intention it can be hired could be breaking the law. Any persons accompanying vehicles that have formed a taxi rank in public view for the purpose of hire are committing an offense.

According to case law. So our friend from London was essentially right, if cars rank up out side this taxi office in full view of the public they will be committing an offense

Sussex · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:38 pm

London Uncensored wrote:

Have you no shame at being ignorant of the laws that pertain to your job ?

You have outlined your answers to your questions, and they, are in the main, incorrect.

Now you can spend as much time as you wish trying to convince yourself that your definition of plying is correct, but it never will be.

What the Captain posted is an accurate assessment of plying laws, now you have chosen to ignore that and rant on about what your mate said in his blog.

That's your choice, but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:40 pm

Acars21 wrote:

I have consulted the Northwests leading authority on taxi legislation he says this quote;

I havent received a call all day :lol:

Sussex · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:42 pm

Acars21 wrote:

Plying for hire in a public place is established case law, anything other than a hackney carriage such as a private hire vehicle has to be pre booked through a licensed operator. Any vehicle accompanied by a driver other than a hackney carriage, found exhibiting itself to the public with the intention it can be hired could be breaking the law. Any persons accompanying vehicles that have formed a taxi rank in public view for the purpose of hire are committing an offense.

See that's the difference we have been trying to get over to the London chap, the word could.

It all depends on the circumstances at the time, and once again I say a PH chap parked up on the high street doesn't mean he is plying.

London Uncensored · **Joined:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm **Posts:** 107

Acars21 wrote:

toots wrote:

London Uncensored wrote:

Where are the vehicles waiting to accept hirings ?

Are they on full view at any time ?

There is plenty of room on Duke Street for some of the vehicles to return to base if necessary and wait for a job to be dispatched. Chances are though they'll wait where they're already waiting although there's plenty of room on Duke Street for them to return to base while they wait to be dispatched

I have consulted the Northwests leading authority on taxi legislation he says this quote;

Plying for hire in a public place is established case law, anything other than a hackney carriage such as a private hire vehicle has to be pre booked through a licensed operator. Any vehicle accompanied by a driver other than a hackney carriage, found exhibiting itself to the public with the intention it can be hired could be breaking the law. Any persons accompanying vehicles that have formed a taxi rank in public view for the purpose of hire are committing an offense.

According to case law. So our friend from London was essentially right, if cars rank up out side this taxi office in full view of the public they will be committing an offense

Thank you Acars21. I have been taking a lot of abuse from some narrow minded individuals that also know the truth but won't admit it. They should re-name this thread "Ambush Alley !"

Thank's again, LU

Ps, if I can do anything help you Liverpool lads PM me !

captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:44 pm

Sussex wrote:

It all depends on the circumstances at the time, and once again I say a PH chap parked up on the high street doesn't mean he is plying.

where on earth do London manage to hide 70,000 phv's ?

London Uncensored · **Joined:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm **Posts:** 107

Sussex wrote:

Acars21 wrote:

Plying for hire in a public place is established case law, anything other than a hackney carriage such as a private hire vehicle has to be pre booked through a licensed operator. Any vehicle accompanied by a driver other than a hackney carriage, found exhibiting itself to the public with the intention it can be hired could be breaking the law. Any persons accompanying vehicles that have formed a taxi rank in public view for the purpose of hire are committing an offense.

See that's the difference we have been trying to get over to the London chap, the word could.

It all depends on the circumstances at the time, and once again I say a PH chap parked up on the high street doesn't mean he is plying.

P*ss Off Sussex, you have no knowledge of Hackney Carriage law and have made yourself look a prize idiot. Talk about damage limitation. Crawling up Acars21's ar*se tells me you have no shame !

toots · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:51 pm

captain cab wrote:

Sussex wrote:

It all depends on the circumstances at the time, and once again I say a PH chap parked up on the high street doesn't mean he is plying.

where on earth do London manage to hide 70,000 phv's ?

In the same place they hide their muppets :wink:

London Uncensored · **Joined:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm **Posts:** 107

captain cab wrote:

Sussex wrote:

It all depends on the circumstances at the time, and once again I say a PH chap parked up on the high street doesn't mean he is plying.

where on earth do London manage to hide 70,000 phv's ?

110,000 and they want another 20,000 more. They are mainly seen sitting on illegal ranks under the STaN policing agenda which has brought us back to where I came in on this thread originally !

Good night !

captain cab · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:57 pm

London Uncensored wrote:

110,000 and they want another 20,000 more. They are mainly seen sitting on illegal ranks under the STaN policing agenda which has brought us back to where I came in on this thread originally !

Good night !

Good night.....and your figure of 110,000 is 40,000 up on an email I received from TfL last week......must be that sudden rush from the olympics?

Chris the Fish · **Posted:** Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:59 pm

Anyone is allowed to make mistakes CC - as keeps being proved by someone or other.

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