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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:36 am 
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noticed this in private eye no 1319;

£500,000 donation to SNP election campaign pledged by stagecoach chief Brian Souter
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-12442654

£1,875,000 Scottish govt grant to stagecoach for low carbon buses now in service
http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/pub ... background

£340,000,000 Stagecoach windfall payout to Souter and other shareholders in 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ers-payout

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:53 am 
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captain cab wrote:
noticed this in private eye no 1319;

£500,000 donation to SNP election campaign pledged by stagecoach chief Brian Souter
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-12442654

£1,875,000 Scottish govt grant to stagecoach for low carbon buses now in service
http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/pub ... background

£340,000,000 Stagecoach windfall payout to Souter and other shareholders in 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ers-payout

Are you sugesting something?

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
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grandad wrote:
Are you sugesting something?



heaven forbid :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
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captain cab wrote:
noticed this in private eye no 1319;

£500,000 donation to SNP election campaign pledged by stagecoach chief Brian Souter
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-12442654

£1,875,000 Scottish govt grant to stagecoach for low carbon buses now in service
http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/pub ... background

£340,000,000 Stagecoach windfall payout to Souter and other shareholders in 2011
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... ers-payout


What an amazing set of coincidences.. #-o

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/ne ... y.16850696

Do think he bought this as well?

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gusmac wrote:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/transport/bus-firms-warn-of-fares-hike-after-cut-in-subsidy.16850696

Do think he bought this as well?


It fechin baffles me as to why the Bus Service Operators Grant money should be wasted on the giant Merry-go-round of empty buses that pass through the Villages of the Scottish borders..They must think that by adding more and more subsidized buses on as many routes as possible that it will magically attract more folk into using more buses.......Wrong.....people love using their cars because they travel where the buses don't go and at a time that's convenient to the individual.

It Also fechin baffles me that in busy cities they need a subsidy at all, these bus companies should be made to run profitable routes without the need of free loading off Joe Public and his Tax Payers money.

If City buses aint making money it's because no ones using them and that infers an over supply of buses and an under demand by passengers..

Time to stop all this BSOG guff and let the Market sort itself out...running buses is only green if the buses are full.. #-o


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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
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I wouldn't argue with a word of that. Bus subsidies are a complete waste of public money.

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
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bloodnock wrote:
gusmac wrote:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/transport/bus-firms-warn-of-fares-hike-after-cut-in-subsidy.16850696

Do think he bought this as well?


It fechin baffles me as to why the Bus Service Operators Grant money should be wasted on the giant Merry-go-round of empty buses that pass through the Villages of the Scottish borders..They must think that by adding more and more subsidized buses on as many routes as possible that it will magically attract more folk into using more buses.......Wrong.....people love using their cars because they travel where the buses don't go and at a time that's convenient to the individual.

It Also fechin baffles me that in busy cities they need a subsidy at all, these bus companies should be made to run profitable routes without the need of free loading off Joe Public and his Tax Payers money.

If City buses aint making money it's because no ones using them and that infers an over supply of buses and an under demand by passengers..

Time to stop all this BSOG guff and let the Market sort itself out...running buses is only green if the buses are full.. #-o


Well, you've just about said it all, eh? It doesn't get any more simple than that.

We've had successive administrations in Edinburgh squandering fortunes on the altar of public transport. remember the £4million wheeze known as the busway? That ludicrous plan to put guidewheels on buses so the driver could put his feet up and not have to steer. Donald Anderson should be brought back and put in the stocks for that.

And the fact that the publicity brochures for the first Waterfront development homes had a picture of a tram on the front? How could they know trams were coming unless they'd been promised. Which suggests collusion between developers and politicians and intrinsic corruption. Were brown envelopes given to the scumbag local politicians to make this happen?

No one wanted Trams, yet they have been forced through at every stage. We all know they can't possibly operate without huge public subsidy. we also know that our excellent bus service will be destroyed to justify them. we've already seen busfares hiked above inflation rate to bring them towards where tram fares will have to be pitched. this process will continue until tram launch and beyond.

Edinburghers have been lied to. Our local councillors are LIARS. I suggest they've been shown to be corrupt. And it is going to cost us.

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:45 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
gusmac wrote:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/transport/bus-firms-warn-of-fares-hike-after-cut-in-subsidy.16850696

Do think he bought this as well?


It fechin baffles me as to why the Bus Service Operators Grant money should be wasted on the giant Merry-go-round of empty buses that pass through the Villages of the Scottish borders..They must think that by adding more and more subsidized buses on as many routes as possible that it will magically attract more folk into using more buses.......Wrong.....people love using their cars because they travel where the buses don't go and at a time that's convenient to the individual.

It Also fechin baffles me that in busy cities they need a subsidy at all, these bus companies should be made to run profitable routes without the need of free loading off Joe Public and his Tax Payers money.




If City buses aint making money it's because no ones using them and that infers an over supply of buses and an under demand by passengers..

Time to stop all this BSOG guff and let the Market sort itself out...running buses is only green if the buses are full.. #-o


Well, you've just about said it all, eh? It doesn't get any more simple than that.

We've had successive administrations in Edinburgh squandering fortunes on the altar of public transport. remember the £4million wheeze known as the busway? That ludicrous plan to put guidewheels on buses so the driver could put his feet up and not have to steer. Donald Anderson should be brought back and put in the stocks for that.

And the fact that the publicity brochures for the first Waterfront development homes had a picture of a tram on the front? How could they know trams were coming unless they'd been promised. Which suggests collusion between developers and politicians and intrinsic corruption. Were brown envelopes given to the scumbag local politicians to make this happen?

No one wanted Trams, yet they have been forced through at every stage. We all know they can't possibly operate without huge public subsidy. we also know that our excellent bus service will be destroyed to justify them. we've already seen busfares hiked above inflation rate to bring them towards where tram fares will have to be pitched. this process will continue until tram launch and beyond.

Edinburghers have been lied to. Our local councillors are LIARS. I suggest they've been shown to be corrupt. And it is going to cost us.


Well...the newbie owners of Edinburgh Airport must have been spawned from the same Satanic Bus loving parents...I was looking for something else and found this in their Media section. If you aint a Bus Owner your just not good enough for them, Even if you still take in more Airport Clients than the bus companies do. Hell used to be perceived as Red, now it seems Its been Green in colour all along.


Public transport drive takes off

22 May 2012

Call for public views on latest airport access plan

More than a third of all passengers are using public transport to get to Edinburgh Airport, latest figures from the Capital’s gateway show.

The mode share of passengers travelling by bus has jumped from 28.9% in 2010 to 33.6% last year, exceeding the airport’s target of reaching 27% by 2011. The figures are published in the Airport’s Surface Access Strategy (ASAS) which outlines targets to increase the passenger public transport mode share, and reduce the average number of vehicle journeys per passenger. Edinburgh Airport is currently consulting on its latest Surface Access Strategy and is encouraging individuals and organisations to comment on the Consultation Document.

Edinburgh Airport Managing Director Jim O’Sullivan said: “Increasing the number of passengers arriving at the airport by public transport helps we reduce pollution and minimise road congestion. We’re working hard with all our public transport providers, to offer passengers a range of choices. That, plus the strength of our inbound tourism market, means that more of our passengers than ever before are choosing public transport to get to the airport.

“Any views or suggestions on how we can now go even further are very welcome as part of our consultation process on surface access.”

Other initiatives in the ASAS include the introduction of bus realtime information and passenger journey planning facilities, and a study to consider the feasibility of creating a new bus interchange facility on the A8, have been undertaken. Additional bus routes have been introduced, whilst existing routes have been enhanced.

The 2012 ASAS consultation document can be viewed here: http://www.edinburghairport.com/about-u ... -expansion the consultation period ends on the 23 July 2012.

All comments, suggestions and questions regarding the ASAS can be made via email, phone, through edinburghairport.com or by post. Contact details are available on the ASAS page described above.





And:
"Car parking strategy will be reviewed within the context of
achieving an integrated surface access system which maximises
opportunities for passengers and staff to travel to the airport
by public transport"



The little snippet above taken from their masterplan says it all, you their best customer delivery system, even though 2 people in a Taxi emits less C02 than 20 people in a full size bus does....We are all being screwed.

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 Post subject: Re: Number crunching
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:18 pm 
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It's all corporate bollux. They don't give a shecht about green issues or how people get to their business. Just how much they can fleece off the sheep (sorry public) while they have them on the premises. The green issue is no more than an excuse.

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