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I am not a football supporter... and therefore do not know the corrects football terms regarding the stadium..... what I do know is what I have been listening to for the last 23 years....... the fans on mass came down to the gate ... that was not only for that part of the stadium but also the entrance to other parts.. it became a backlog.. there was practically no police.... to relieve that pressure the police open the gate.... the intention was for the fans to go either side where it was empty... but the police forgot to close the tunnel. so the fans went straight ahead... into the tunnel following the man in front.... that pen was already full... it held 1500 people..... and thousands more were let in..... people in the tunnel were collapsing, people outside of the tunnel were getting crushed.. they climbed up onto walls to get out of the crush...
All this was was made out to be drunken fans storming the gates.. that was not the case. yes fans go to matches without tickets and still do today ...but they go home afterwards

I think you were sold a line 23 years ago and you still believe it now. because not to believe would mean you were wrong.... I suggest you read the report

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Just like the reports 23 years ago Trevor, you didn't want to believe everything an enquiry 'finds'.

They 'find' what they want, especially when knighthoods and honours are floating about.

Why didn't the ambulances go to the stadium..... I know why... because they were all dead at 3...15...... but now it seems 40-50 were still alive... don't you think that's a question that deserves an answer..

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

this report simply lays out the facts as the documentation proves... as they have said the evidence speaks for itself..... you should read the report

http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/ ... report.pdf

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

As the severity of the disaster was becoming apparent, SYP Match Commander, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, told a falsehood to senior officials that Liverpool fans had broken into the stadium and caused an inrush into the central pens thus causing the fatal crush. While later discredited, this unfounded allegation was broadcast internationally and was the first explanation of the cause of the disaster to enter the public domain.• Within days, further serious allegations emerged from unnamed sources, a Police Federation spokesperson and a local Conservative MP, Irvine Patnick. These were that Liverpool fans had conspired to arrive late, many were without tickets, were exceptionally drunk and aggressive and determined to force entry into the stadium.• On 19 April, four days after the disaster, The Sun newspaper published a front-page story under the banner headline, ‘THE TRUTH’, alleging that Liverpool fans had assaulted and urinated on police officers resuscitating the dying, stolen from the dead and verbally sexually abused an unconscious young woman. Although less prominently, and often with a lesser degree of certainty, other regional and national newspapers published similar allegations.• In a letter revealed to the Panel, within days of The Sun’s article its Managing Editor wrote to people, including bereaved families, who had complained about the allegations. While regretting the presentation of the article, he refused to apologise for its ‘substance’, claiming it was factually accurate. Subsequently the coverage was condemned by the Press Council.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Ambulances and the fire brigade will always have an RVP before entering any public order situation, thats still the case today.

Plus we're talking 1989 medical knowledge and equipment here, in 1989 literally no front line ambos carried a defibrillator , now you find them in tescos.

The point is that the doctors involved in this report were of the opinion that with the equipment and knowledge the ambulance crews had at the time that those people had the chance of life... where they are not allowed in by the police??

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Public order situation: their safety, fans in the pitches safety, access to the pitch with exiting fans etc

Lots of valid reasons.

The same would happen today, Rvp and await instructions.

Cant believe some of the comments,there were lies corruption and cover ups and thats ok ? Have things really moved on that much ?Ian Tomlinson and another few spring to mind.Its not about the football people died and people lied about it,if it was someone close you lost you might feel different.

I still cant believe 160 police officers altered notebooks and not 1 has admitted it and said why...

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

I think there's now a general consensus that many people f***ed up on and before that day, which eventually led to those very sad needless deaths.

Loads of people are correctly pointing the fingers at those in the establishment, but I'm also asking why those fighting the good fight never mention the appalling behaviour by some of the Liverpool fans before the game.

There appears to be a large dose of ignorance when it comes to their so-called own.

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IDFIMH

Did you only read or hear the bits you wanted ? Or was i mistaken when the panel said ""The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans'; 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium'; and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'."

How much evidence do they need to simply see that the ground was full and there were still thousands outside.

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Grandad,

But the point being there was a disaster where people died,with no evidence of all the false allegations by the police.Was this not the same force that five or six years earlier had been involved with the miners strike and cover ups there ?

People outside the ground didnt kill anyone.....how could they - they were outside the ground.

Of course, the people maybe crushed themselves - in the same manner as those who died on Bloody Sunday shot themselves, in the same manner that those accused of the Birmingham Pub Bombings beat themselves up before confessing.

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