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Think of an Independent Scotland as a blank sheet of paper.
We can do what we want with it.
Write a masterpiece or scribble a mills and boon.
Doodle silly pictures or create a work of art.
Make a paper aeroplane or just wipe our arses on it.
But that choice is ours. Nobody else's.

Be assured of one thing Skull. I stop voting SNP after independence. And I won't be alone in that.
Because at that point there will be no reason to.

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The current political system merely presents you with the illusion of choice. The truth is, you don't matter. It's not a choice to have a system where by you get to choose between a number of evils, all of which are equally unaccountable for their electorate.

This is like Animal Farm, new pigs taking over to run the place, but it's still the same old-farm.

I don't plan on keeping the pigs after farmer Jones is evicted.

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You would need Scotland to collapse to bring about real constitutional change,and what’s more. It would take an educated public to do it. The truth is, the X Factor brigade actually believes the current democratic system represents their interests.

The X factor brigade won't give a stuff until the shit is piled so high, it interferes with their reception.

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So how do we make politicians more Accountable without changing the political system ? We can't, the political system is a mess.

So how do we make politicians more Accountable?

WE VOTE A VERY VERY BIG YES

By Demanding a New Beginning (2016)

Independence is not about 1 party, Independence is about changing a Poltical system that needs changed.

Skull the word DEMAND and through puting our tuppence in to the debate on what we the voter expect from Independence will ensure we get an Independent Scotland that is and has a New Political system that ensures politicians are more accountable, YES it will be the same old faces but they will feel massivley under pressure or in your words feel more accountable to Deliver what the electorate expects from independence.

In a population of 5 million this is achievable (VOTE YES) Within the current UK population 60 million, we and you have NO chance of Change VOTE YES ffs

Hey it could be worse at least we can debate realistically changing for the better our political system, we have the chance to change, our friends ( ) south of the border have NO CHANCE

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and the chnaces of the x factor brigade ( and i seriously have issues with your use of the term brigade ) wont change, so quite simply you'll have the usual tub thumping sh*te rather than looking at the ABE brigade bleating on about how downtrodded you all are by those damn english.......knowing full well come independence you'll have the same old, same old.

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Personally, I believe, together we are stronger. That might not be the case, if a real constitutional change was on the horizon, but it's not, and as stated before, it would take a full economic collapse to achieve it. Something along the lines of what happened in Iceland. Apart from that, I don’t think anything will change and things may even get worse.

I haven’t got a [edited by admin] clue what supporters of independence, think, is going to happen if they achieve their aims, and I don’t think they do.

These little tartan people are doing my tits in. It's like they are on drugs or something, and all caught up in some sort of Brave Heart movie, but instead of fighting for one’s freedom, you are voting to commit suicide. It's all very bizarre.

At last. Spoken like a true BritNat.

You can't see because you don't want to. BritNats never do.

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Fuck me, you'll be singing Rule Britannia next

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You've lost me completely. I've said many times, I would vote for Independence, if we had a written constitution which made politicians directly accountable, to their electorate. The truth is, it's never going to happen unless there is some sort of economic collapse or an uprising.

Listen, to this video on Iceland and if you can tell me Scotland is going down the same road with Independence. You've got my vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGoCQFbvHzs

Incidentally, you've obviously no idea what a BritNat is, if you think that describes me.

With an independent Scotland we would have a written constitution. That's more than we have at present and it's more than you will ever get under the union.
As to what's in it, that's up to us - the citizens of Scotland.



I'm well aware of what happened in Iceland, though most on here probably aren't.

You forget one thing though, Skull. Iceland was able to pursue this route because they were independent.
If they were still part of Denmark, the decision wouldn't have been theirs to make and they would have been stuck with a decision made in Copenhagen.
Likewise Scotland. The bank bailouts were decided by the UK government, Scotland had no choice in the matter.
Now, would the outcome would have been any different? Probably not, but at least it would have been our decision to make.

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Gusmac the decision would have been King Salmonds

The SNP have a knack of letting you think you will be making the decision they refer to everything as us when they mean them

Nonsense!!

The people of Iceland pursued this route because of economic collapse, it had nothing to do with being Independent. It was a strength of feeling that brought the politicians to their knees and kicked out the bankers. And it's that very same strength of feeling that will bring Independence, or not, whichever the case may be.

Politicians are the same the world over, and the people only get what they deserve. If we want real change, then it will happen but as far as I can see, there is nothing to write home about.

It's a nice dream gusmac but I think you are deluding yourself.

I think your the deluded one.

They could not have done this under Danish rule. They simply wouldn't have got the choice.
Denmark would just have imposed their will and Iceland would have had to swallow it.

Or vote for independence

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