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 Post subject: Re: DID YOU KNOW
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:25 pm 
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Our council now insists on seeing a document, with both your NI number and name and address on, each time we re-license our driver's badges.

The only document I have on with both is my tax return, so it will be interesting to see if this has an effect.

Is there another document with both? :?

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 Post subject: Re: DID YOU KNOW
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Our council now insists on seeing a document, with both your NI number and name and address on, each time we re-license our driver's badges.

The only document I have on with both is my tax return, so it will be interesting to see if this has an effect.

Is there another document with both? :?


Yes sir, my OAP pension documents has both as well! :oops: :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: DID YOU KNOW
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:35 am 
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Wannabee wrote:
Paid holidays are EARNED not gifted


Working part-time

Part-time workers are also entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks of paid holiday each year, although this may amount to fewer actual days of paid holiday than a full-time worker would get.

Example
A worker works 3 days a week, their leave is calculated by multiplying 3 by 5.6 which comes to 16.8 days of annual paid leave.


Whilst I understand this I'm not entirely sure what you're point is :?

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Did you know that 60per cent of people on benefit are in employment ?

So does that mean the Tax Payers are subsidizing employer's business's :D :D :D



I reckon it's more than 70per cent, most of them will be migrants rinsing our benefits system.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:05 am 
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Did you know that 60per cent of people on benefit are in employment ?

So does that mean the Tax Payers are subsidizing employer's business's :D :D :D



I reckon it's more than 70per cent, most of them will be migrants rinsing our benefits system.


I reckon that's probably bollocks. :wink:

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toots wrote:
Wannabee wrote:
Paid holidays are EARNED not gifted


Working part-time

Part-time workers are also entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks of paid holiday each year, although this may amount to fewer actual days of paid holiday than a full-time worker would get.

Example
A worker works 3 days a week, their leave is calculated by multiplying 3 by 5.6 which comes to 16.8 days of annual paid leave.


Whilst I understand this I'm not entirely sure what you're point is :?


Cos you said.....

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I've said this before but in relation to the likes of the big super market chains. They may brag about the amount of jobs they create but what they don't tell you is very few of the jobs they create are full time. Many are only for 15 contracted hours but then they let workers work extra hours to make up money, but not consistently. If however they have their holidays they only get the 15 hours holiday pay they are contracted to, it's a scam on a large scale imo.


work 40 hours a week and you get 5.6 weeks x 40 hours paid holidays a year
work 15 hours a week and you get 5.6 weeks x 15 hours paid holidayd a year


You cant expect 40hours pay when your on holiday when you dont earn that the rest of the year!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:22 pm 
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The point of this is Tax Payers subsidize highly profitable companies through benefits topping up minimum wage earners to me thats OUTRAGEOUS. :evil:


naturally the share holders are delighted that THEIR payments are maintained BY THE TAX PAYERS = MORALITY NONE :D :D

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trotskys twin wrote:
The point of this is Tax Payers subsidize highly profitable companies through benefits topping up minimum wage earners to me thats OUTRAGEOUS.


Shall we ask the multitude of P/T workers who cant do 40 hours a week if they are as distraught as you are?

in my experience its usually P/time with the option of extra hours as needed, if we apply that to your employment model a full timer would be asked to work 50+ hours when needed, and dont forget (not that you ever knew) but some businesses need extra staff at times of peak demand, 40 P/Timers whose hours can overlap means twice as many on the shop floor, YOUR alternative could mean half the staff and empty shelves, stores dont hold stock now (google "just in time" (JIT) deliveries) so it arrives, its wheeled off and put on shelves, more going out through the tills means more trucks outside to be tipped - at peak times again....

your a dinosaur TT, and we all know how big a brain a dinosaur had....

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wannabeeahack wrote:
toots wrote:
Wannabee wrote:
Paid holidays are EARNED not gifted


Working part-time

Part-time workers are also entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks of paid holiday each year, although this may amount to fewer actual days of paid holiday than a full-time worker would get.

Example
A worker works 3 days a week, their leave is calculated by multiplying 3 by 5.6 which comes to 16.8 days of annual paid leave.


Whilst I understand this I'm not entirely sure what you're point is :?


Cos you said.....

toots wrote:

I've said this before but in relation to the likes of the big super market chains. They may brag about the amount of jobs they create but what they don't tell you is very few of the jobs they create are full time. Many are only for 15 contracted hours but then they let workers work extra hours to make up money, but not consistently. If however they have their holidays they only get the 15 hours holiday pay they are contracted to, it's a scam on a large scale imo.


work 40 hours a week and you get 5.6 weeks x 40 hours paid holidays a year
work 15 hours a week and you get 5.6 weeks x 15 hours paid holidayd a year


You cant expect 40hours pay when your on holiday when you dont earn that the rest of the year!

You missed the point that Toots was making. A worker with some of these employers is contracted for 15 hours a week. They may well be working 40 hours or more a week but when it comes to holidays it is paid at 15 hours a week.

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You missed the point that Toots was making. A worker with some of these employers is contracted for 15 hours a week. They may well be working 40 hours or more a week but when it comes to holidays it is paid at 15 hours a week.


Agreed but the jump from being contracted for 15 hours to DOING 40 is a hell of a jump*, and unusual, especially seeing as the Employer would then be liable for paying Employers NI (one saving by having 2 PT instead of 1 FT worker, magnified with 20 per store and 50 stores nationwide, but its only what any sensible company would do, and gives flexibility of manpower which, in turn, helps keep the business afloat, if a PT employee qualifies for DSS help thats no concern of the employer


*If every week was upped to 40 hours an employee could contact ACAS for guidance

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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You missed the point that Toots was making. A worker with some of these employers is contracted for 15 hours a week. They may well be working 40 hours or more a week but when it comes to holidays it is paid at 15 hours a week.


Agreed but the jump from being contracted for 15 hours to DOING 40 is a hell of a jump*, and unusual, especially seeing as the Employer would then be liable for paying Employers NI (one saving by having 2 PT instead of 1 FT worker, magnified with 20 per store and 50 stores nationwide, but its only what any sensible company would do, and gives flexibility of manpower which, in turn, helps keep the business afloat, if a PT employee qualifies for DSS help thats no concern of the employer


*If every week was upped to 40 hours an employee could contact ACAS for guidance

As an employer, I have to pay employers NI for all of my employees even the ones that work less than 15 hours. I also have to pay employers NI for my employees who are over state retirement age and are therfore exempt from paying NI themselves.

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