Taxi Driver Online

Every thread has a subject, and it is legitimate for posters to at least try to stick to the point, rather than to wander off topic for their own reasons.
This one is about a murder trial with one driver dead and another looking at a life sentence. You chose to use it to launch yet another attack on The SNP and some specific politicians.
Politics now has it's own separate section . Admin almost wrecked the forum creating it a few weeks ago.
You could have started a new thread there with your accusations. You did not and, to me, that says much about you.



Yes, wonderful people those Tories Such an honest and upstanding bunch.


I think this fettering goes back a lot further than any SNP administration. It was going on back when you supported it, before you "jumped ship" as you put it. Who was in power then?



Well here's a plan Jas.
Get your Tory mates at Westminster to do something about the disgraceful bogus self-employed scam. There would be no real advantage trying to exploiting real employees with rights. ECPH and others would soon go broke trying to pay these guys even minimum wage with sick pay, national insurance and paid holiday entitlement. A decent entry standard for drivers wouldn't go amiss either.
Problem there is every unionist party wants to strip people of their rights, none more so than those nice Tories nobody up here votes for or wants. They'd make the sick, the disabled and the unemployed work for them gratis FFS.


I agree, the public should decide but without a level playing field, that isn't going to work and you know it. As long as part of the trade can exploit people with impunity, they will drive out the rest.


I have no party. If I tell you this often enough, do you think it might actually stick?
I therefore have no need to defend anyone, scumbag or other wise. I also think all politicians are scumbags to a greater or lesser degree. It goes with the territory.

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http://wingsoverscotland.com/ http://www.newsnetscotland.com/

So Jasbar do you care to comment on the recommendations within the consultation published concerning the future of Taxi/Ph especially where they look to restrict the growth of the PH. In bed with i think not

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

This is because Edinburgh is not Falkirk and so on, recognising the areas most at risk of infiltration by organised crime,Recognising the differences in the market place as well, Devolution too LAs is one the best things to come out of the recommendations,you do accept One police force is totally different to the taxi/ph trade, surely you do

Oh and another is increasing Enforcement in compliance but how are the trade going to pay for this is the question, Restriction through cost is my stance, this restricts the growth of the PH as well and gives us a controlled growth of the black cab trade, now where did i post the Edinburgh Medallion system, New York New York Jasbar

Scotland will though be a safer place with one Police Force

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Murder trial: Taxi driver ‘ran man over’



Jurors have been urged to find a “powerful and compelling” case against a cabbie and convict him of murdering a private hire driver.

The prosecution argued that Stephen Nolan, 48, had deliberately driven over Ebrahim Aryaei Nekoo, 41, and inflicted massive crushing injuries.

However, Nolan’s lawyer submitted to the jury at the High Court in Edinburgh that, while there clearly had been a tragic death, no crime, let alone murder, had been proved.

Donald Findlay, QC, said the Crown’s allegations against Nolan needed him to be the only “villain of the piece” but Mr Aryaei Nekoo had been more than willing to have a confrontation.

Nolan, 48, of Redhall Place, Edinburgh, denies murdering Mr Aryaei Nekoo, 41, of Carrick Knowe Hill, Edinburgh, on 24 March last year in a car parking area near the Fords Road entrance of the city’s Saughton Park. It is alleged he repeatedly drove his black cab at him, struck him on the body, and drove over him.

Knife

The High Court in Edinburgh has heard that the two men clashed verbally at a filling station and then drove to the park. At the end of an incident lasting a mere 12 seconds, Nolan had driven from the park and Mr Aryaei Nekoo was left severely injured. He was found within a few minutes and attempts were made to save him but he died at the scene.

In his closing speech to the jury, the advocate-depute, Douglas Fairley, QC, reminded the jury that Nolan had gone to a police station after the incident, but not before he had visited his girlfriend’s house and had a smoke and a cup of coffee.

Nolan had told officers that Mr Aryaei Nekoo had produced a knife, and Nolan had jumped back in his cab and somehow it went over Mr Aryaei Nekoo.

“He said that ‘without a shadow of a doubt’ a knife would be found near to Mr Nekoo. So where is this knife? The evidence quite clearly demonstrates there was no such knife. It was nothing more than a lie. He invented the story about a knife and then he went to the police office to get his story in first,” said Mr Fairley.

Accelerated

He added that tyre tracks showed Nolan’s taxi had “accelerated hard” and had twice changed direction when facing the exit to the car parking area.

“He never once braked - not before, not as and not after driving over him. This was no accident,” claimed Mr Fairley.

It was a circumstantial case but the various strands of evidence made a “powerful and compelling case”.

Mr Fairley stated to the jurors: “You will be able to say, ‘I have no reasonable doubt. This was not an accident. This was murder’.”

For the defence, Mr Findlay said the word “tragedy” was probably overused in courts, but this trial was in every real sense the story of a tragic death.


Confrontation

“The question is: have the Crown proved that a crime was committed? That’s what this case is all about,” he suggested.

The prosecution would have the jury believe that Nolan alone was the villain of the piece, because it wanted the events in the car park to be viewed with a soured attitude towards him.

However, Mr Aryaei Nekoo had gone to the park for the simple reason that he wanted to, and had followed Nolan there after the incident at the filling station.

“It’s pretty clear they went there for some kind of confrontation...there was nothing to chose between these two men. Each chose separately and independently to go to the car park,” said Mr Findlay.

The trial continues

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I can't see them convicting on the murder charge but stranger things have happened. Based on what I've read so far, this one is going to be a close call.

Personally, if the press reports are correct, that he will be found guilty, especially of forensics have proven that it was possible for him to drive away from the incident on more than one occasion.

Stevie Nolan probably didnt have intent when he and the victim went to the park but in the heat of the moment things could've changed. I can't see how he could accidentally run over the victim. He could've intended to hit the victim with the cab, not necessarily to kill but just hurt and accidentally the vehicle went over his body

Consultations are works of fiction, opinion and dreams. They have no place in anyone's normal rational thinking. Which is why you place so much faith in them.

Personally, I'll just ignore it.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Thanks CC. A brilliant tool. Perhaps folks will adhere to keeping threads on topic.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

It's a tough one, no intention to kill but death by reason of an accident. Mr. Nekoo was 21 meters from his car and presumably acting with malicious intent. Nolan, on the other hand, was fleeing the scene. At some point, Steven jumped back into his vehicle with Nekoo having plenty of time to return to his vehicle, but instead, he falls under Nolan's taxi, and it rolls right over the top of him inflicting the fatal injuries.

Nah this was an accident, not murder, even if things did get out of hand.

If Nekoo had fu*ked off back to his vehicle instead of dicking around trying to obstruct Nolan's attempt to flee the scene, this unfortunate accident might never have happened.

This is a tale of two dickheads.

I know this is from a newspaper report, but I can't believe the stated quality of Findlay's rebuttal. It doesn't ring true and I suspect we're not getting the full story.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

The prosecution is obviously going flat out for a murder conviction, hoping that, the jury will convict rather than let Nolan walk, even though the case for murder has yet to be proven. Thereby kicking the case up stairs to the appeal courts. I think Steven needs a strong jury that won't allow itself to be bullied by the prosecution into giving a guilty verdict.


I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

I wouldn't convict of murder in this case. And I'm surprised there isn't a lesser charge on the table. But then the prosecution would know that any lesser charged would be seized on by any reasonable jury.

As I said before, a coroner would deem this death by misadventure. And that's not necessarily murder.

Nekoo died at the hands of Nolan. But did Nolan know it?

I don't believe so.

I believe Nolan knew that something bad had gone down. So he went to his girlfriend's to get his head round it. Only in a calmer, more rational mind, did he realise he should involve the police. To his credit, he faced his problem.

And I wouldn't convict on no knife being found. All Nolan had to believe was that Nekoo's demeanour suggested he had a knife. May have had a knife. That would be enough for any man to consider his position was perilous and to try to extricate himself from it as soon as. And it is in this process I believe that the circumstances happened for Nekoo to be run over.

Also, Findlay is right. the prosecution need for there to be only one protagonist. But Nekoo followed Nolan to the park. He didn't have to. Mr Angry could have peeled off and gone about his business.

if we're seeking truth and justice here, I would have liked to hear from Mrs Angry precisely what life was like living with this angry man.

But then, courts aren't about truth and justice. They're about winning.

I suspect those who know what really happened are those who really knew Nekoo.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Please don't post again. I don't reply to imbeciles and you're hijacking the thread. Go play with yourself, child.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Taxi driver Stephen Nolan found guilty of murdering Ebrahim Aryaie Nekoo


A black cab driver who used his taxi as a weapon in an Edinburgh park has been found guilty of murder.



Stephen Nolan, 48, from Edinburgh, had denied chasing and murdering Ebrahim Aryaie Nekoo, 41, in his cab in Saughton Park on 24 March 2012.

A post mortem found a broken skull, 40 rib fractures which had torn into his lungs, a smashed pelvis and a wound to Mr Aryaie Nekoo's thigh.

Nolan is due to be sentenced next month.

A Vauxhall Zafira, used by Mr Aryaie Nekoo as a private hire taxi, was parked nearby with the lights still on when he was found.

Jurors at the High Court in Edinburgh were shown tell-tale tyre tracks which prosecutors claimed showed how Mr Aryaie Nekoo was chased by Stephen Nolan at the wheel of his black cab.

Despite the efforts of other passers-by, including trained first aider Anne-Marie Hoy who was on her way to work at a nearby care home, and an ambulance paramedic, Mr Aryaie Nekoo died before he could be taken to hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-e ... e-21940386

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin