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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:51 pm 
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The Dundonian wrote:
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In the event that Edinburgh Council go ahead and fight the applications for Edinburgh Taxi Licence Plates and lose, the flood gates will be open.

Legal counsel advised us that Edinburgh Council is facing a humiliating defeat resulting in de-restriction if they go ahead with the legal challenge.

The only recourse given to the Council and the trade would be an eleventh hour back down by the Council granting the licence plates and avoiding the total de-restriction of the Edinburgh Taxi Trade.




So I take it from this that you are only interested in a plate for yourself (and maybe a few of your colleagues) and not for others who would are interested in a plate?

Just like 203020 in Dundee, the case you are relying on?



No, I am interest not only a plate for myself but a number of plates with the view of putting them on as a company, auctioning them or both, if there is a residual value left in the plates. It quite simply comes down to what makes the most money under the circumstances, for me its business.


My colleagues on the other hand want a plate for themselves to run their own taxi. As for other who might be interested, they pay their money and take their chances just like the rest of us, such as life as they say.


I am more than happy to take my chances in an open and free market; I have no trepidation about what the future might hold, I only look forward to it. :wink:


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Skull wrote:
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In the event that Edinburgh Council go ahead and fight the applications for Edinburgh Taxi Licence Plates and lose, the flood gates will be open.

Legal counsel advised us that Edinburgh Council is facing a humiliating defeat resulting in de-restriction if they go ahead with the legal challenge.

The only recourse given to the Council and the trade would be an eleventh hour back down by the Council granting the licence plates and avoiding the total de-restriction of the Edinburgh Taxi Trade.




So I take it from this that you are only interested in a plate for yourself (and maybe a few of your colleagues) and not for others who would are interested in a plate?

Just like 203020 in Dundee, the case you are relying on?



No, I am interest not only a plate for myself but a number of plates with the view of putting them on as a company, auctioning them or both, if there is a residual value left in the plates. It quite simply comes down to what makes the most money under the circumstances, for me its business.


My colleagues on the other hand want a plate for themselves to run their own taxi. As for other who might be interested, they pay their money and take their chances just like the rest of us, such as life as they say.


I am more than happy to take my chances in an open and free market; I have no trepidation about what the future might hold, I only look forward to it. :wink:



Your right there Dundonian, what a bunch of hypocrites and phoneys eh.


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If Edinburgh is such a bad place why not change the area you work in to the same one you live in and pay Council tax to, that would seem to solve all your problems in one go.


Yes, it would solve a lot of problems if we could only work where we lived, we wouldn't need road pricing for a start. :D

But I suspect that the economy would grind to a halt anyway :?

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What I really want to know is if there are no limits, no tests and no plate values how come the Fares are not a good deal cheaper to reflect this, this is a question that has puzzled me about the whole de-limit debate.


The problem is that the logic in your question is not reflected in the logic applied by LAs when setting taxi fares. :?

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TDO wrote:
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If Edinburgh is such a bad place why not change the area you work in to the same one you live in and pay Council tax to, that would seem to solve all your problems in one go.


Yes, it would solve a lot of problems if we could only work where we lived, we wouldn't need road pricing for a start. :D

But I suspect that the economy would grind to a halt anyway :?


Well the thing is TDO, you could always work in your own area if the one you work in does not suit you, it's pretentious rubbish, thats all it is, as I said hypocrites and phoneys. :lol:


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Well the thing is TDO, you could always work in your own area if the one you work in does not suit you, it's pretentious rubbish, thats all it is, as I said hypocrites and phoneys. :lol:

The thing is drivers should work, and should be allowed to work, where they dam well please.

And if they want to drive PH, then good luck to them, and if they want to run their own taxi vehicle, then ditto. But it should be their choice, and they shouldn't have to pay up to £50,000 for the privilege.

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Well the thing is TDO, you could always work in your own area if the one you work in does not suit you, it's pretentious rubbish, thats all it is, as I said hypocrites and phoneys. :lol:

The thing is drivers should work, and should be allowed to work, where they dam well please.

And if they want to drive PH, then good luck to them, and if they want to run their own taxi vehicle, then ditto. But it should be their choice, and they shouldn't have to pay up to £50,000 for the privilege.


No they should not have to pay £50,000 well unless it's at skulls auction, but lets make it quite clear here Sussex, I am not suggesting that drivers from outside any Licensing area should not be allowed to work in another area, but the fact is that in East Lothian the Council seems to meet skulls criteria of how a Council should administer the taxi trade, he lives in the area so why not work there, it's he who has the problem with Edinburgh not the other way round, so I will say it again, hypocrites, phoneys and now twisters as well. [-(


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Sirius wrote:
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Well the thing is TDO, you could always work in your own area if the one you work in does not suit you, it's pretentious rubbish, thats all it is, as I said hypocrites and phoneys. :lol:

The thing is drivers should work, and should be allowed to work, where they dam well please.

And if they want to drive PH, then good luck to them, and if they want to run their own taxi vehicle, then ditto. But it should be their choice, and they shouldn't have to pay up to £50,000 for the privilege.


No they should not have to pay £50,000 well unless it's at skulls auction, but lets make it quite clear here Sussex, I am not suggesting that drivers from outside any Licensing area should not be allowed to work in another area, but the fact is that in East Lothian the Council seems to meet skulls criteria of how a Council should administer the taxi trade, he lives in the area so why not work there, it's he who has the problem with Edinburgh not the other way round, so I will say it again, hypocrites, phoneys and now twisters as well. [-(




Ah and there we have it, the moral high ground, it must be nice to be so far up your own arse you can look down on others.

Its simple sillyarse, sorry, Sirius I was born and brought up in Edinburgh and I have been an Edinburgh Taxi Driver for 15 years this is why I work there.

You see Sirius I don’t have a problem with where anyone lives or how much anyone wants to pay for a taxi licence whether it is £700 or £70,000. Neither do I have a problem with anyone who wants to challenge the Council or any other authority for that matter, this is how society evolves.


I have no problem fighting it out in a free market either.


If you want to have your own licence and want to work in the trade, great, if you want to sell you licence for a tidy some then I am over the moon.

You do whatever you have to do, you pay your money, and you take your chances.


Nothing lasts for ever no one guaranteed anyone a privileged existence in a free market and no councillor will be holding you hand when you are taking your last breath.


Sirius, your need to feel superior betrays your weakness, just like the little councillors that lord our power over us. It is they and you who are the hypocrites, phoneys and twisters. I don’t feel the need to seek some phoney recognition from my peers or some false sense of gratification by towing the party line. This is your world not mine.


Your fear of not being taken seriously is well justified. I will say it again, hypocrite, phoney and now twister as well. [-X


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Well if thats what you think thats up to you, I will leave you to get on with it with your mates on here,it would appear some of them have more in common with you than they care to admit. :sad:

Taxi Driver for fifteen years, took you a while to decide that you did not have a privileged existence in a free market then.
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Sirius wrote:
Well if thats what you think thats up to you, I will leave you to get on with it with your mates on here,it would appear some of them have more in common with you than they care to admit. :sad:




Taxi Driver for fifteen years, took you a while to decide that you did not have a privileged existence in a free market then.
:lol:



Another one bites the dust! :-({|=


When I started driving taxis the trade was de-restricted, it didn’t bother me then and it doesn’t now.

Looks like Sillyarse has spat the dummy out, :badgrin: not that important after all :-#


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Skull wrote:
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Well if thats what you think thats up to you, I will leave you to get on with it with your mates on here,it would appear some of them have more in common with you than they care to admit. :sad:




Taxi Driver for fifteen years, took you a while to decide that you did not have a privileged existence in a free market then.
:lol:



Another one bites the dust! :-({|=


When I started driving taxis the trade was de-restricted, it didn’t bother me then and it doesn’t now.

Looks like Sillyarse has spat the dummy out, :badgrin: not that important after all :-#

This sums up the attitude of the Skull.
Shout, insult and then try to dismiss. Everything is a war!!
Thankfully, the overwhelming majority of sane-minded people in Edinburgh (both in and out of the taxi trade) see him for what he is - a loudmouth with a giant chip on his shoulder and very little between his ears.
It is true that normal people just get fed up talking to him. It's the old one about hitting your head against a brick wall - you're glad to stop!!
He has his views and they are facts (in his opinion) and woe betide those who dare to disagree.
The facts of the matter will out when the court case is done and dusted.

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Just to emphasise the point, this is the PM the same Skull sent me!!!!

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To: RealCabforce
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:32 pm
Subject: The end is nigh
My, you didn’t last long, if you are interested I know where there is a good deal in razor blades. It sounds like you are going to need them or are you opting for the head in the oven or perhaps a dive off a cliff somewhere.

You’re posting smacks of desperation, another little taxi driver full of the fear of what might happen.

My heart bleeds for you brother!



THE END

And we've got to put up with this drivel in the flesh!!!

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Still no real name from realCabforce funny how he won’t identify himself but what I can tell you is that he has a lot to lose.

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The facts of the matter will out when the court case is done and dusted.

Wrong again realCabforce the court case is just about a period of time extension, the council wanted another six months to decide. In the event that there is any unmet demand quantified by the Jacobs report we get our plates anyway and still before the people on the interested parties list.

You really should be better informed as to what is going on within your trade



Another casualty of War

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Skull wrote:
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Well if thats what you think thats up to you, I will leave you to get on with it with your mates on here,it would appear some of them have more in common with you than they care to admit. :sad:




Taxi Driver for fifteen years, took you a while to decide that you did not have a privileged existence in a free market then.
:lol:



Another one bites the dust! :-({|=



When I started driving taxis the trade was de-restricted, it didn’t bother me then and it doesn’t now.

Looks like Sillyarse has spat the dummy out, :badgrin: not that important after all :-#


No I have not spat the dummy out, it would appear from your posts that what you are aiming at is some form of Aemulationem Vicini, your statements are full of inconsistencies about the whole issue, first you say, you want a free market or open market, then you say, that you want the plates to start a company or auction them off to the highest bidder, I just find it very hard to follow what you are actually in favour of here, as do you , I think.

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Sirius wrote:
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Well if thats what you think thats up to you, I will leave you to get on with it with your mates on here,it would appear some of them have more in common with you than they care to admit. :sad:




Taxi Driver for fifteen years, took you a while to decide that you did not have a privileged existence in a free market then.
:lol:



Another one bites the dust! :-({|=



When I started driving taxis the trade was de-restricted, it didn’t bother me then and it doesn’t now.

Looks like Sillyarse has spat the dummy out, :badgrin: not that important after all :-#


No I have not spat the dummy out, it would appear from your posts that what you are aiming at is some form of Aemulationem Vicini, your statements are full of inconsistencies about the whole issue, first you say, you want a free market or open market, then you say, that you want the plates to start a company or auction them off to the highest bidder, I just find it very hard to follow what you are actually in favour of here, as do you , I think.

Novus actus Interveniens




I can see this is going to come as a shock to you but a “free market is a free market” that means you do what the market dictates under the circumstances of that market as I have said before.

Services, buying and selling take your pick the market will dictate the level of which it functions through the competition of who competes within it.


What is there to understand, and spare me the Latin I am not impressed, bullshit is bullshit, in any language. 8)


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