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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:59 pm 
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That's more like it but holidays should be added in along with sick pay, pension and anything else you can think of. It is disingenuous to leave things out in order to increase your hourly rate, even if it is time spent sitting in the house, as you are still on call 14 hours a day and then some. The truth is, you are working far below the national minimum wage. :cry:

It's looking at things through rose-tinted spectacles that have a habit of coming back and biting you on the ass. :shock: And I can't help but notice that when comparing the earnings of drivers and owners, the owners have a habit of excluding benefits that employed people take for granted to justify their self-employed status. :-|



IF THEY WANT THAT THEN THEY SHOULD GO AND GET A JOB

FFS NO-ONE MAKES THEM DO ANYTHING!

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:41 pm 
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That's more like it but holidays should be added in along with sick pay, pension and anything else you can think of. It is disingenuous to leave things out in order to increase your hourly rate, even if it is time spent sitting in the house, as you are still on call 14 hours a day and then some. The truth is, you are working far below the national minimum wage. :cry:

It's looking at things through rose-tinted spectacles that have a habit of coming back and biting you on the ass. :shock: And I can't help but notice that when comparing the earnings of drivers and owners, the owners have a habit of excluding benefits that employed people take for granted to justify their self-employed status. :-|



IF THEY WANT THAT THEN THEY SHOULD GO AND GET A JOB

FFS NO-ONE MAKES THEM DO ANYTHING!


You're a strange chap wanabeeahack, what is it with you and wallowing in your own servility? Driving a taxi is sh*t and it's not going to get better anytime soon, yet not only is your glass half full, it's positively brimming over. #-o So much so you don't believe you deserve better pay and working conditions. #-o

It's "I'm a taxi/ph driver, and this is the way it should be, what do we want with working fewer hour's increased earnings, holiday pay, sick pay and pensions, etc."? #-o

Me thinks you are about as crazy as a sh*thouse rat.... :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:06 pm 
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You're a strange chap wanabeeahack, what is it with you and wallowing in your own servility? Driving a taxi is sh*t and it's not going to get better anytime soon, yet not only is your glass half full, it's positively brimming over. #-o So much so you don't believe you deserve better pay and working conditions. #-o

It's "I'm a taxi/ph driver, and this is the way it should be, what do we want with working fewer hour's increased earnings, holiday pay, sick pay and pensions, etc."? #-o

Me thinks you are about as crazy as a sh*thouse rat.... :lol:


OK, find me a job then........bet you cant cos i couldnt

ill do 60 hours a week for the profit in my £700 till then thanks, cos hard work dont scare me

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:58 pm 
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You're a strange chap wanabeeahack, what is it with you and wallowing in your own servility? Driving a taxi is sh*t and it's not going to get better anytime soon, yet not only is your glass half full, it's positively brimming over. #-o So much so you don't believe you deserve better pay and working conditions. #-o

It's "I'm a taxi/ph driver, and this is the way it should be, what do we want with working fewer hour's increased earnings, holiday pay, sick pay and pensions, etc."? #-o

Me thinks you are about as crazy as a sh*thouse rat.... :lol:


OK, find me a job then........bet you cant cos i couldnt

ill do 60 hours a week for the profit in my £700 till then thanks, cos hard work dont scare me


So how is it, I've never met a wealthy taxi driver unless his wife is out working and on a big salary, has a pension from a previous employer or he's won or inherited some cash? #-o

Twenty years ago, Electricians, Joiners, Plasterers, Plumbers, Bus drivers, Firemen, etc. They were all clambering over each other to drive a taxi, and now they are all back working in their respective trades. #-o I even know guys that haven't bothered to renew their taxi licence the trade is so sh*t. #-o

Oh and Super wannabeeahack, you do realise that I know when you are talking sh*t because I drove a taxi for over twenty years and watched the trade go steadily down the tubes? :-k

Your "cos hard work don't scare me" just doesn't cut it. You are a dinosaur me auld chum, and you are living in a bygone era. #-o

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:07 pm 
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fu...ing hell Skull... how do you want to force old cabbie to do something different even if there is more money and less hours? that`s fu...ing strange, it`s like trying to teach an old elefant to dance. struggling to earn decent money these days is not taxi drvers habits it`s global lack of money. don`t you think that this business as a service is not necessity? people don`t use taxis cos they can`t afford them... so we`re comming back to the point and start again...


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:31 pm 
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fu...ing hell Skull... how do you want to force old cabbie to do something different even if there is more money and less hours? that`s fu...ing strange, it`s like trying to teach an old elefant to dance. struggling to earn decent money these days is not taxi drvers habits it`s global lack of money. don`t you think that this business as a service is not necessity? people don`t use taxis cos they can`t afford them... so we`re comming back to the point and start again...


You are correct, there is a serious lack of money and what is more, there's been a sea change in how people go about spending their hard-earned cash. Nevertheless, your trade has to take responsibility for doing nothing in the last twenty years, to improve their lot. They've run their industry into the ground. Oh and most of what has happened was predicted by yours truly. :wink:

Do you know, that when I first started driving taxis, I could make more money on a Saturday night, than most people could earn, in a week? :shock:

The taxi trade got to where it is now, for the most part, through apathy, greed and self-interest, and it was guys like wannabeeahack that allowed it to happen. You've only to read some of his posts to realise what I am saying is true. He's living in denial. And as was written before "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere" Voltaire, knew what he was talking about... #-o

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:38 pm 
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When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter


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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:44 pm 
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When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter


At one time in Edinburgh, you could run the meter to pick up the job. :shock:

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When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter


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At one time in Edinburgh, you could run the meter to pick up the job. :shock:

FFS Skull you could have been visiting Guss for a pint at the time :lol: :lol: 120 miles to pick up a £2.00 job :lol: :lol:


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When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter


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At one time in Edinburgh, you could run the meter to pick up the job. :shock:

FFS Skull you could have been visiting Guss for a pint at the time :lol: :lol: 120 miles to pick up a £2.00 job :lol: :lol:


I remember walking four miles out from the city center on your average weekend before hailing a cab with its light on and if the guy didn't want to go in your direction, you were fuc*ed. Oh and a neighbour of mine had a taxi he drove two days a week, and that was it.

The money they earned in those days was the equivalent of a professional salary, if they worked the hours. Pensions, sick pay, holiday pay was all figured into the equation. A mate of mine told me he paid off a new taxi in nine months and ran it for 5-6 years before buying a new one. :shock:

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Oh and taxis in those days, were the preserve of the middle and upper classes, none of the scheemies you get now. #-o This was before even my time... :cry:

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:07 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter

Become a private hire operator then. :roll:

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Oh and taxis in those days, were the preserve of the middle and upper classes, none of the scheemies you get now. #-o This was before even my time... :cry:



Correct, when I started people who used us were workers, now it's people who are on the dole and getting benefits.

Yesterday someone rang for a Taxi to go to the food bank, £10 trip to get £40 worth of food.


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When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter


So you don't want a yearly increase then??

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At one time in Edinburgh, you could run the meter to pick up the job. :shock:


It used to be the same round here, now it's pick up to drop.


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:49 am 
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When I first started, we didn't have meters it was a fixed rate, and everyone knew how much it cost to get home, now we have them and fare rises almost annually, less folk use the cabs.
I know what I would like to do with the meter


erm, you may have to put it on to comply with your LA regs (within your LA) but nothing says you cant charge less

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