grandad wrote:
cabby john wrote:
we would be able to trade with another 150/160 countries from around the world (think of the jobs that could create). The issue re jobs is a trade off of jobs and trade with 28/29 countries Or open up links with 150 other countries and create jobs well beyond what we would lose.
We already trade with Countries outside the EU. The difference is that there is LESS red tape and bureaucracy trading within the EU than there is with Countries like China, The middle East and the USA.
I used to work for a company called Aveling Barford who made very large dumper trucks, up to 65 ton load, for quarries and such like. It took over 2 years to get the required licenses and authority to supply 40 of them to China. They could go to the EU within days.
Grandad I know we already trade with other nations, and yes there are at the moment obstacles. Unfortunately as ever all you will ever hear about is the problems/spin AGAINST other countries and why we should stay in. The problem as already stated, is that 40 years on, we ARE technically bankrupt, a position that we not in before this catastrophe .........so how can it be right for the Nation as a whole?
Let us be fair on this - if you were banging away for 40 years trying to get something right and it was not happening, you are also getting deeper and deeper into debt, your living standards as an individual and nationally are getting worse as the years go on, but the Bosses i.e Prime Ministers/Presidents/Politicians are living the life of Riley, because basically just like the bankers they are ripping the people off - Anddd YOU would still want to stay in

- Just because it suits a few because there is less red tape, it does not mean that it is beneficial for the nation.
We talk about the jobs in this country that have been apparently created by being in the EEC! In Cardiff and I would think around the majority of the U.K (London and maybe one or two others excepted) we are gripped with "Retail/Call Centres/National minimum wages, none of them paying en-mass good wages in order to get a mortgage/pay their way in life. Since we joined the EEC all of our
Quality paid manufacturing jobs are basically gone - where are all of the en-mass well paid jobs that we used to have? Trust me on this - they have been allowed to go by our politicians at the behest of the Euro masters who are filling the pockets of their extremely rich friends who are exploiting people in third world countries who do jobs we used to do.
To stop the drain of the jobs, all they have to do is to ban whatever company that has made its fortune off of the back of British workers from trading on our shores. These are companies who decide they are now going to take the jobs to whatever third world country (so they can exploit and make even more money) and they should be made to take a share of responsibility that they have in creating debt in the population! If the EU adopted the same strategy then straight away the company/companies concerned would probably lose a market of over 350 million customers and could not survive, it is easy....but will they do it
Do not listen to the BS - look around you,what has changed so much that an economic boom is around the corner.............I know it is not good in our neck of the woods because nothing has changed - and will not be getting any better unless you live in - London, London, London.....our fifth country within the U.K.
Just remember......this is the way we now live, being fed copious amounts of BS - don't suck it up - get out whilst you can.