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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:47 pm 
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We've got a few million to spend on showing how inept Tfl are, how we spend our money is up to us.

Meanwhile out in county mounty land you continue to be inundated with instant licenses, extortionate radio circuit fees and a 3 hour wait on the ranks.

I'll stick to our clever c@nts.

You are welcome to do what you like with your money, I couldn't care less.

But your brainless leadership have delayed matters possibly by several years. Does that make you feel better?

And not only brainless your mob are also gutless.

Rather than allow TfL go to the high court to see if Uber's business model is legal, your mob wants to criminalise a few licensed driver trying to earn a living.

Does that make you feel brave?




Don't worry about it, it's a London issue, nothing to do with you.

And you can lay of the crocodile tears over the uber drivers, they're being backed and represented by an American billionaire and the best money can buy. Besides, how can you criminalise them if they've done nothing wrong? They haven't done anything wrong have they? :roll:

If you think TFLs inept lawyers will make any progress you're sadly mistaken, their case won't be looking for any fault from the outset, so we'll take action ourselves. The high court action will continue, albeit delayed. Nov was hardly next week anyway.

That's the beauty of having a taxi representative group with 10000 members, lawyers and the will to do something, whilst around the country they spent their time forelock tugging and pay lip service to the local licensing officers.


GBC in london your wrong throwing millions at Lawyers will get YOU fekk all ........................it needs industrial action ie massive industrial action #-o

Yer comments about the trade outside of london are bang on =D> =D> =D> =D> GROVELLERS :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

MIND I HOPE YER LOSE UBER WILL SHRED THE PH INDUSTRY AS IT STANDS AND BE BETTER FOR PH DRIVERS THAN THE PRESENT REGIME =D> =D>

AND THEN ONCE YOU LOT HAVE HAD A KICKING .............AS YOU WILL GET REST ASSURED :p PERHAPS COMMON SENSE OR NECESSITY WILL SEE WORKERS FROM BOTH AREAS ACTUALLY JOINING FORCES AGREEING DEMARCARTION AND ENSURING THEIR OWN WELL BEING #-o #-o #-o YEH PIGS MIGHT FLY :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:51 pm 
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Tbh terry, it's affecting cabs very little. I've finished one of my best Junes since 2008. It's impacting the minicab industry more, as it's minicab users who are moving away from the likes of Addison Lee to the yank tax avoiders.

You're applauding them for breaking the 'minicab barons' hold on drivers, but you know as I know the 20% will soon be 25% and so on. Once they gain an Addison lee sized share of the ph market, up the commission goes.

Lawyers may or may not achieve much, but it WILL show up how incompetent TFL are to their paymasters, and I'm betting uber will be fully compliant with the London ph act within the year. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:51 pm 
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Don't worry about it, it's a London issue, nothing to do with you.

I think when people say that about cowardly bullys, I take no notice.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:56 pm 
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Perhaps you could approach them with a view to starting @uberBhtn ?

Only 20% !

Sat navs supplied.

80% of £15 is better than 100% of £10.

In other words it's irrelevant what the discount is, all that matters is what's in the pot at the end of the week.

If licensed drivers can earn out of Uber, then great, if they can't then I doubt it will last.

Why do you think the spivs are so against it? Is it because it allows drivers choice, and maybe a few quid more?

As for Uber coming down here, the sooner the better.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:15 am 
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But they've done nothing wrong!!!

So they've nothing to worry about.

Have they?

Or are they breaking the terms of the act concerning being an operator?

Regardless if what you think, or believe, you may be surprised to know the action is going ahead, tune into next weeks edition of TAXI for a full update on the implications and expectations.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:18 am 
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And if you think a tax avoiding silicone valley .com company will give two shi@s about its drivers, you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

They'll dump it all quicker than you can say crooks if they don't make their predicted profits.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:43 am 
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And if you think a tax avoiding silicone valley .com company will give two shi@s about its drivers, you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

They'll dump it all quicker than you can say crooks if they don't make their predicted profits.
A bit like Addy's new owners or the present owner of Manston airport...


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:09 pm 
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GBC wrote:
But they've done nothing wrong!!!

So they've nothing to worry about.

Have they?

Or are they breaking the terms of the act concerning being an operator?

Regardless if what you think, or believe, you may be surprised to know the action is going ahead, tune into next weeks edition of TAXI for a full update on the implications and expectations.

I don't think the drivers have done anything wrong, and they are the ones that are being prosecuted.

I also don't think Uber are doing anything wrong, and that was the clarification TfL were undertaking before the LTDA messed everything up.

I will be delighted to view the next edition of Taxi, but would sooner a High Court Judge expressed the law rather than a magazine.

And your mob have delayed that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:10 pm 
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And if you think a tax avoiding silicone valley .com company will give two shi@s about its drivers, you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

They'll dump it all quicker than you can say crooks if they don't make their predicted profits.

But Uber are prosecuting drivers, the LTDA are.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:25 am 
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Only 20% !


80% of £15 is better than 100% of £10.

In other words it's irrelevant what the discount is, all that matters is what's in the pot at the end of the week.

If licensed drivers can earn out of Uber, then great, if they can't then I doubt it will last.

Why do you think the spivs are so against it? Is it because it allows drivers choice, and maybe a few quid more?

As for Uber coming down here, the sooner the better.


I have to agree that paying a 20% commission isn't a lot.

You have to consider this 20% pays for the:

- card transactions and fees.
- use of the despatch software/app, which is provided on a 3G smartphone which they supply.
- their website
- weekly BACS payments
- advertising and marketing
- fraud and non-payment by customers. If you do the job, you'll get paid.

If any driver is unhappy with the 20%, then they can choose not to work for Uber, and instead get their own operating licence, and look for their own work, thus they can then charge what they like.

It's certainly better paying that, than a fixed circuit fee/rent, where if it's quiet and no work, you still have to pay it. This is what the spivs don't like. Uber is completely open shift, log on and off when you like. No one will ring you, wondering if you're able to work that night/where you are/when will you log on etc. You can use Uber to work around your other personal/work commitments.

Besides, some companies I do work for, just tell me how much to invoice them. I have no idea how much they charge the client in the end, it could be £100 for a £50 job I do. I'm not bothered, and as mentioned, it's irrelevant, as long as I find the job worthwhile for that £50.

Uber will be targeting Birmingham next, obviously the next major city. It could be a while before they reach Sussex :wink:


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Louise Mensch: black cabs ‘need Uber-style app to survive’


Louise Mensch has challenged Boris Johnson to beat taxi firm Uber at its own game by creating an official app for London’s black cabs.

The former Tory MP, who now lives in New York, said “everyone” uses Uber to get around in the Big Apple. She warned that unless the capital’s cabbies keep up with the times, they will “dwindle to nothing”.

She believes the Mayor should bring in tech experts to create a similar online cab service. Uber lets passengers order taxis directly by text message or via a mobile phone app.

Thousands of London’s black cabbies are furious that Uber drivers use a taxi meter they believe is only meant to be used by them. A demonstration last month brought central London to a standstill.

Ms Mensch, 43, who resigned from the Commons in 2012, said: “If Boris was really clever here’s my advice: TfL, make an Uber-style app and system for black cabs and undercut Uber on the price.

“Black cabs will die out without this. I don’t mean to sound alarmist but it’s a fact. Everybody in New York City uses Uber and the yellow cabs are cheaper than black cabs in London. Because black cabs are more costly, Uber will destroy them.

“If TfL and Boris coded a good app, they could beat Uber, but it would need to have all the same features.”

She added: “I’m a fan of Uber but not one that wants to see black cabs disappear. Boris should get some good coders on this right away or a part of London’s heritage will dwindle to nothing.” She added that an online cab system “would be a multi-billion pound addition to London’s economy — Uber is worth $100 billion in the US”.

Black cab drivers are taking their case to the High Court but have been warned they face a long delay before the case is heard.

TfL appeared to rule out creating its own Uber-like app and pointed to the dozens of third party applications available on mobile phones. A spokesman said: “We are happy to work with developers who have any ideas for further new applications.”

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transpor ... 88749.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:37 am 
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“If Boris was really clever here’s my advice: TfL, make an Uber-style app and system for black cabs and undercut Uber on the price."


There you go GBC.

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Someone better tell my punters to stop using me.

:lol:

Louise Mensch says . . . . :D


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:47 am 
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grandad wrote:
captain cab wrote:
“If Boris was really clever here’s my advice: TfL, make an Uber-style app and system for black cabs and undercut Uber on the price."


There you go GBC.



I'll leave the battle to the bottom for the county's , I'll keep charging a fair fare for my pocket and the punters pocket.

And on the app front . . Get Taxi, Black cab app, Cab app, Hailo, Ldn taxi app, DAC app, Com cab app, Radio taxis app . . . They must have been dis-invented in the last week? :D


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