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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:51 am 
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Oh like the banks have self regulation :roll: What a load of poppycock. From day to day a Delta driver has no idea where they are going to be sent or what areas they land in regardless of the fact that a driver has a comfort zone they could be sent anywhere in Sefton and it's surrounding boroughs. It seems to me that you think Delta would like to take the easy option whenever possible to get as many drivers through their doors as they possibly can and it appears to me that you think that's ok. As a driver do you not take any pride in your profession, do you as a driver think it's right to dumb down drivers knowledge tests, is it any wonder that the public look at you and think 'well you're only a taxi driver nothing to it really' and 'what''s your proper job'. Ffs take pride in what you do, it takes a special kind of person to do this job properly any idiot can drive a car
I have said from the start that there should be a knowledge test but that it should be updated, and made more relevant to actual navigation by changing the format. Did you read my previous posts? I said that scrapping knowledge tests would encourage people to get badged and work casually, possibly not caring so much about the quality of the service they provide. I then asked how that could possibly be good for business. I think it should be harder to get on not easier. When I said some Sefton drivers only work north Sefton, I was referring to drivers who work for firms based in Southport or Formby who rarely come out of their way except perhaps the odd fare to town. The real question I guess is how can Sefton justify testing their applicants on Liverpool/Knowsley, when not all of them would be working there?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:27 am 
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That's very true but it would have to be Delta's own knowledge test as there are many Sefton drivers who only work in north Sefton and don't come near Liverpool unless they get a job to there then they just drive back out.. it would be pointless for them to have to know all of south Liverpool and Knowsley.


Oh like the banks have self regulation :roll: What a load of poppycock. From day to day a Delta driver has no idea where they are going to be sent or what areas they land in regardless of the fact that a driver has a comfort zone they could be sent anywhere in Sefton and it's surrounding boroughs. It seems to me that you think Delta would like to take the easy option whenever possible to get as many drivers through their doors as they possibly can and it appears to me that you think that's ok. As a driver do you not take any pride in your profession, do you as a driver think it's right to dumb down drivers knowledge tests, is it any wonder that the public look at you and think 'well you're only a taxi driver nothing to it really' and 'what''s your proper job'. Ffs take pride in what you do, it takes a special kind of person to do this job properly any idiot can drive a car

Like they say Toots, there are taxi drivers and people who drive taxis. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:16 pm 
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do you still think it's that difficult for drivers to earn a living?

Then why haven't they got drivers queuing at the door?

They have but not ones that can pass the knowledge test it seems :lol:

It took me 3 months to pass the Test....it is not easy...i took it four times before i passed, on average only 2 from the 10 that took the test each time passed, and it does include routes into the rest of Merseyside
To do away with the test would open the floodgates to every tom dick and harry and drive the standards down without a doubt.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:00 am 
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It took me 3 months to pass the Test....it is not easy...i took it four times before i passed, on average only 2 from the 10 that took the test each time passed, and it does include routes into the rest of Merseyside
To do away with the test would open the floodgates to every tom dick and harry and drive the standards down without a doubt.
It's unfortunate that it took you 3 months to pass, but that does not mean the test is sufficient or an actual test of navigation. It's more a test of just memorising the road names of the 40 routes (or evidently sometimes less than that and then hope you get 6 that you know). Also there are 2 or 3 routes on the test that are wrong. I agree though with what you said about doing away with it altogether.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:36 pm 
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It took me 3 months to pass the Test....it is not easy...i took it four times before i passed, on average only 2 from the 10 that took the test each time passed, and it does include routes into the rest of Merseyside
To do away with the test would open the floodgates to every tom dick and harry and drive the standards down without a doubt.
It's unfortunate that it took you 3 months to pass, but that does not mean the test is sufficient or an actual test of navigation. It's more a test of just memorising the road names of the 40 routes (or evidently sometimes less than that and then hope you get 6 that you know). Also there are 2 or 3 routes on the test that are wrong. I agree though with what you said about doing away with it altogether.


The 'memory test' for learning the routes is simply solved. Do as they do on Wirral and not give out any routes.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:18 am 
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It took me 3 months to pass the Test....it is not easy...i took it four times before i passed, on average only 2 from the 10 that took the test each time passed, and it does include routes into the rest of Merseyside
To do away with the test would open the floodgates to every tom dick and harry and drive the standards down without a doubt.
It's unfortunate that it took you 3 months to pass, but that does not mean the test is sufficient or an actual test of navigation. It's more a test of just memorising the road names of the 40 routes (or evidently sometimes less than that and then hope you get 6 that you know). Also there are 2 or 3 routes on the test that are wrong. I agree though with what you said about doing away with it altogether.


The 'memory test' for learning the routes is simply solved. Do as they do on Wirral and not give out any routes.

I agree, Knowsley just give the pickup point and destination and you have to tell them the quickest route. This would be better in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:26 pm 
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I agree, Knowsley just give the pickup point and destination and you have to tell them the quickest route. This would be better in my opinion.


Wirral don't even do that :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:04 pm 
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I agree, Knowsley just give the pickup point and destination and you have to tell them the quickest route. This would be better in my opinion.


Wirral don't even do that :wink:

I meant in the test not as revision material.

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I agree, Knowsley just give the pickup point and destination and you have to tell them the quickest route. This would be better in my opinion.


Wirral don't even do that :wink:

I meant in the test not as revision material.


Well when you do the test in Sefton what do they give you? Surely they only give you the pick up point and the drop off point.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:59 pm 
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Well when you do the test in Sefton what do they give you? Surely they only give you the pick up point and the drop off point.
Of course, but there are only 40 set routes which are given to candidates to revise before the test. Sorry, that wasn't clear what I said. I meant that there should be say 50 places which could be used as pickup points or destinations, and candidates would not know in advance which places they might have to describe a journey to or from.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:39 pm 
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Well when you do the test in Sefton what do they give you? Surely they only give you the pick up point and the drop off point.
Of course, but there are only 40 set routes which are given to candidates to revise before the test. Sorry, that wasn't clear what I said. I meant that there should be say 50 places which could be used as pickup points or destinations, and candidates would not know in advance which places they might have to describe a journey to or from.


Alternatively they could have no advance warning as to where the pick up or drop off points are and just go do the test like they do on Wirral.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:38 pm 
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Alternatively they could have no advance warning as to where the pick up or drop off points are and just go do the test like they do on Wirral.
It's a good idea but I don't think it will happen. if it did, someone could not go from being on the dole to driving a delta car in just 6 weeks could they? :roll:

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Alternatively they could have no advance warning as to where the pick up or drop off points are and just go do the test like they do on Wirral.
It's a good idea but I don't think it will happen. if it did, someone could not go from being on the dole to driving a delta car in just 6 weeks could they? :roll:


Clearly not but it works just fine here :D

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=D> I think Mr Delta is starting to worry. See this link, http://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/news/ ... ce-7351129 , the title for paper article states "Stark figures show taxi licence applications in Sefton are down by more than 20%". The number of people applying to driver a taxi in sefton is declining. The reason he wants to scrap the knowlegde test is so that he have more drivers, because taxi driving applications are down. Mr Delta is also facing competition from other liverpool taxi companies. In Liverpool, there are now two taxi companies (Future and Phoenix), which have black cabs but charge private hire rates. Phoenix taxis I believe
may be the cheapest taxis in Liverpool. Alpha a Liverpool taxi company is also as nearly as cheap as them and now has 500 drivers, an increase from a 100.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:42 am 
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=D> I think Mr Delta is starting to worry. See this link, http://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/news/ ... ce-7351129 , the title for paper article states "Stark figures show taxi licence applications in Sefton are down by more than 20%". The number of people applying to driver a taxi in sefton is declining. The reason he wants to scrap the knowlegde test is so that he have more drivers, because taxi driving applications are down. Mr Delta is also facing competition from other liverpool taxi companies. In Liverpool, there are now two taxi companies (Future and Phoenix), which have black cabs but charge private hire rates. Phoenix taxis I believe
may be the cheapest taxis in Liverpool. Alpha a Liverpool taxi company is also as nearly as cheap as them and now has 500 drivers, an increase from a 100.
That article is from 1 July, and the 20% drop represents the difference between 2011 and 2014's numbers, a substantial time period. Mr McLaughlin (that's his real name) always wants more drivers, it puts money in his pocket and gets a car to people faster. He'll never stop recruiting. Customer decisions aren't just based on price, they're also based on speed and quality of service.

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