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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:09 pm 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Cabby John 1,

"I do what I can to improve it."
I wrote the last three tariffs in Plymouth. Strangely I did not want any of them, but the alternates I produced which I thought better were rejected by the Trade so the Tariff they preferred was put to the Council and approved. This takes work to get it through, but we have consistently managed to achieve the aim with some very minor tweaks by the Authority.

If a passenger wishes to complain, who do you suggest they complain to? The Driver? It has to be to the Local Authority or perhaps if urgent, the Police.

I understand your angst at the status quo, so get off your behind and change the status quo.

Write a letter to the press, insist on "No Editing" and if you keep it short and pertinent they are very likely to publish it, long and rambling will be edited or ignored.

The "Lazy Sods" to which I referred were your LA Enforcement, not the Trade, I took my lead from your earlier point.

In Plymouth we have lists of fares to places outside the City, these are produced and copied, most Drivers have one, we in effect, all charge the same. If the passenger does not want to pay, they become a bus passenger.

It very much is "in your remit" to improve the trade, either actively on the Committee of an Association or Union, or passively by fully supporting those that do get off their Ar5e and take the active part.

"Do what you can to improve it."


your on the money there fish face not often i agree with you =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:59 pm 
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Cabby John 1,
If you read the post properly (as you suggested others do further up the thread) you will see I put:

At 2 miles in PHTM you are worse off than us. But with our high Flag Fall and your low one it gives a false picture.

You suggest “I see that you are ranked at 175 and us (and I am not bragging) 230.......I guess PTHM and I, have both go it wrong” and at two miles you are both right, but I say again the picture is false.

Due to a typo I suggested that you get 28p per mile more than us, it should have been 38p as I am sure you realise having looked at both tariffs.

Your Tariff after midnight adds £1.00 whilst ours adds 50p at 7pm and another 50p at midnight. Both Tariffs charge the same mileage rate.

So AFTER MIDNIGHT, at 1 mile you get £4.80 whilst we get £5.00 (160 yards short) then at 2 miles you get £6.40 (105 yards short) and at 2 miles we get £6.70 (320 yards short). At 3 miles you have £8.20 and we have £8.20 (80 yards short). From this point you move ahead of us at 38p per mile.

At ten miles your meter gives £20.00 (109 yards short) and we achieve £17.50 on ours. If the PHTM table was calculated at the 10 mile point, we in Plymouth would be in the bottom 10 in the country and Cardiff would be in top 100 - so I would rather have your Tariff.

Now, this is seriously meant, do you want a copy of the Tariff calculator I made, so you can produce some suggestions for your Trade Colleagues and the LA?

If you don’t like your Tariff, get your Tariff changed.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:37 am 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Cabby John 1,
If you read the post properly (as you suggested others do further up the thread) you will see I put:

At 2 miles in PHTM you are worse off than us. But with our high Flag Fall and your low one it gives a false picture.

You suggest “I see that you are ranked at 175 and us (and I am not bragging) 230.......I guess PTHM and I, have both go it wrong” and at two miles you are both right, but I say again the picture is false.

Due to a typo I suggested that you get 28p per mile more than us, it should have been 38p as I am sure you realise having looked at both tariffs.

Your Tariff after midnight adds £1.00 whilst ours adds 50p at 7pm and another 50p at midnight. Both Tariffs charge the same mileage rate.

So AFTER MIDNIGHT, at 1 mile you get £4.80 whilst we get £5.00 (160 yards short) then at 2 miles you get £6.40 (105 yards short) and at 2 miles we get £6.70 (320 yards short). At 3 miles you have £8.20 and we have £8.20 (80 yards short). From this point you move ahead of us at 38p per mile.

At ten miles your meter gives £20.00 (109 yards short) and we achieve £17.50 on ours. If the PHTM table was calculated at the 10 mile point, we in Plymouth would be in the bottom 10 in the country and Cardiff would be in top 100 - so I would rather have your Tariff.

Now, this is seriously meant, do you want a copy of the Tariff calculator I made, so you can produce some suggestions for your Trade Colleagues and the LA?

If you don’t like your Tariff, get your Tariff changed.


Right! I will say once again...read the post properly - FROM THE BEGINNING.....the very beginning!

The situation arose from punters not being able to get home from 2/3/4 o'clock in the morning, so I see no point in you mentioning any tariff 1.2.3.4/whatever because it is not relevant. I also believe that I have mentioned in this post or maybe another that the terrain/layout also has a big impact as to how you/I get around the various areas. The point being is that neither Cardiff or Plymouth who may have the same or similar tariff, would not necessarily earn the same, because the layout would/can affect earnings quite dramatically i.e you cannot compare area to area unless you have the same/similar layout. On that basis I am not going to keep on responding just to score points against you/get the last word etc.

Do you not think that .......
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If you don’t like your Tariff, get your Tariff changed.
.... if it were that simple - that it would be done. You have to remember.....I can see the problems, as I can see the problems with the U.K PLC.....unfortunately as an individual...I cannot do sod all. Do you honestly think that the Council/L.A of Cardiff are going to listen to a lone voice?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:44 pm 
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OK, I give up, you can't educate Pork.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:59 am 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
OK, I give up, you can't educate Pork.


There again it takes a man to put his hand up and admit he read it wrong Or for that matter he could just walk away! With your lack of ability to read an article properly, then I would think that education should start at home.....let me know when you have learnt to read :D

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