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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:17 pm 
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If by the uk getting involved in the bombing we cripple IS financially I'm for it but I suspect our money will be wasted bombing shells of buildings that may or may not have been used at some point by IS

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Iraq was never bombed to get Bin Laden. Afghanistan was bombed to get Bin Laden and he was killed in Pakistan not Turkey.


that's how I remember it too

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grandad wrote:
Iraq was never bombed to get Bin Laden. Afghanistan was bombed to get Bin Laden and he was killed in Pakistan not Turkey.


that's how I remember it too


Right on both counts......... now we are getting there.

The point being: whether it is Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...........when did bombing ever sort out the problems?

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You thick assoles its fekking ISRAEL thats created all this sh!t #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:39 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
Iraq was never bombed to get Bin Laden. Afghanistan was bombed to get Bin Laden and he was killed in Pakistan not Turkey.


that's how I remember it too


Right on both counts......... now we are getting there.

The point being: whether it is Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...........when did bombing ever sort out the problems?

So by pointing out the errors in your facts, it is us who are getting there??? :? :?

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You thick assoles its fekking ISRAEL thats created all this sh!t #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


This is not blame apportion......if it were, then we would probably looking closer to home.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:03 pm 
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So by pointing out the errors in your facts, it is us who are getting there???


Okay I will try it in a way that you as a politician are not too familiar with.

I will stick my hands up and say that I got the locations wrong ( the happenings were correct - the locations were wrong), in case you are not familiar with that.....it is called honesty.

Now it is your turn!

Did the bombing of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, make anything better in the long term?

P.S. I do not want any political BS answer....just answer the question......please.

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Cabby John 1 wrote:

Now it is your turn!

Did the bombing of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, make anything better in the long term?

P.S. I do not want any political BS answer....just answer the question......please.

In my opinion yes. Although it may be to early to say just how well things are in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:

Now it is your turn!

Did the bombing of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, make anything better in the long term?

P.S. I do not want any political BS answer....just answer the question......please.

In my opinion yes. Although it may be to early to say just how well things are in Iraq and Afghanistan.


It's only made it better for the Illuminati, when the Americans finished bombing the places they go in and pillage the places. Is there any wonder they're worth over $900trillion ?


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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:

Now it is your turn!

Did the bombing of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, make anything better in the long term?

P.S. I do not want any political BS answer....just answer the question......please.

In my opinion yes. Although it may be to early to say just how well things are in Iraq and Afghanistan.


I would guess by your reply that you think that Vietnam was a success.......perhaps you might like to take time to read this link.........


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 8919,d.d24

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Cabby John 1 wrote:
captain cab wrote:
grandad wrote:
Iraq was never bombed to get Bin Laden. Afghanistan was bombed to get Bin Laden and he was killed in Pakistan not Turkey.


that's how I remember it too


Right on both counts......... now we are getting there.

The point being: whether it is Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...........when did bombing ever sort out the problems?



Hiroshima for 1

Nagasaki for 2

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[/quote]


Hiroshima for 1

Nagasaki for 2[/quote]



I was waiting for those two! It was a different type of war, a war that you could actually win or lose.
The Japanese stood out cosmetically like a sore thumb, and its leaders cared about their own people.

Today we have terrorism and guerrilla warfare, they have people who look the same from half a dozen countries, along with leaders who do not care who they kill, and a war that is unwinnable.

From probably Korea, and most defiitely Vietnam on, bombs have solved nothing.

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P.S. I do not want any political BS answer....just answer the question......please.

It appeared to me to be a "Political BS Question" when I read it! If you want to keep needling only for the answer you want, simply answer the question yourself.

To clarify, I would submit that the question can't be answered with simple yes or no, so the answer will be Political by definition. Whether you would consider the answer to be BS, only you would know.

Has bombing ever been successful? Yes. (I am not limiting my answer to simply the three geopolitical areas you identify.)

Was the fact that it was successful with regard to the object enough to make it legitimate? Abstain.

Can bombing inflame a situation whether or not the immediate aim was achieved? Yes.

Should bombing ever be considered as an option? Yes, with the proviso that other avenues are investigated fully first and continue to be investigated even if bombing has begun.

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Chris the Fish wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:
P.S. I do not want any political BS answer....just answer the question......please.

It appeared to me to be a "Political BS Question" when I read it! If you want to keep needling only for the answer you want, simply answer the question yourself.

To clarify, I would submit that the question can't be answered with simple yes or no, so the answer will be Political by definition. Whether you would consider the answer to be BS, only you would know.

Has bombing ever been successful? Yes. (I am not limiting my answer to simply the three geopolitical areas you identify.)

Was the fact that it was successful with regard to the object enough to make it legitimate? Abstain.

Can bombing inflame a situation whether or not the immediate aim was achieved? Yes.

Should bombing ever be considered as an option? Yes, with the proviso that other avenues are investigated fully first and continue to be investigated even if bombing has begun.


Six pages into a discussion and the eternal fountain of knowledge turns up #-o

If you read the post fully, then you would have understood that Grandad and I were having a difference of opinion, after a number of exchanges.......keep up old chap.

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