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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:03 pm 
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You can deny it, you have denied it, but you are not a nice person. Your actions don't lie. [-(



How the Faark do you know what the blokes like Sussex? He might give up 50% of his takings for cancer research? Help old people across Ped X's? Because someones got hold of a ropey old legal document from an internet site does'nt qualify them as public enemy number one. :lol:

I often pinch myself as to what we discuss on some of these sites, we're Taxi drivers (well some) for flips sake, we're not deciding the outcome of the next American invasion, or the future of the British Economy? TAXIS. you know the things the public or the Government could'nt really give two hoots about unless they need to use us three times a year?

:roll: Help.

well i know him, and it is very astute of sussex to spot this flaw in alan gladstones charcter, and i think we should thank him for passing this knowledge on to the less astute in the trade. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:38 pm 
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ALI T wrote:
greenbadgecabby wrote:
Sussex wrote:

You can deny it, you have denied it, but you are not a nice person. Your actions don't lie. [-(



How the Faark do you know what the blokes like Sussex? He might give up 50% of his takings for cancer research? Help old people across Ped X's? Because someones got hold of a ropey old legal document from an internet site does'nt qualify them as public enemy number one. :lol:

I often pinch myself as to what we discuss on some of these sites, we're Taxi drivers (well some) for flips sake, we're not deciding the outcome of the next American invasion, or the future of the British Economy? TAXIS. you know the things the public or the Government could'nt really give two hoots about unless they need to use us three times a year?

:roll: Help.

well i know him, and it is very astute of sussex to spot this flaw in alan gladstones charcter, and i think we should thank him for passing this knowledge on to the less astute in the trade. :wink:



GBC Alan G is a snake. He is one of these insignificant little men who only become less significant with time. His actions speak louder than words.

I have no problem with anyone doing what they think is necessary but if you get caught then put your hands up. “You do the crime you do the time” as they say. None of us are a pure as the driven snow and I am the last person to point the finger at anyone. But this man has made a life of sliding along on his belly.

Time for Alan to come clean, Christ it’s not as if no one knows what he’s been up to.

No one has seen him out and about for the last few nights. I’ll take a bet he is sliding around the town tying to keeping a low profile.

What a low life! :-&

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:44 pm 
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In the true spirit of parochialism, it appears that I have been ejected from Alan Gladstone's www.fastblacks.com site in Edinburgh.

It would appear that the trade here believes that two cabbies alone are responsibile for bring the realism of quality controls and revised conditions of fitness to the trade in Edinburgh. No cognisance of the many interests who have been involved throughout the whole country, and that there is a tide of change sweeping the nation.

So, I've been barred. It appears that if you don't like the message, then it's better to just close your mind and refuse the right to speak to those with whom you disagree.

Doesn't this only prove that there is no right to free speech in our nation?

Finally. It appears that Mr Gladstone intends to seek legal redress because I publicly, on his site, called him a thief for going into my private message box, illegally using a link he found there to information being held in a non-public area of the TDO site, thereby publishing the information he found there through his own site. That this information was a legal document relating to case which is still pending only compounds his felony and reaffirms his stupidity.

It would appear that Mr Gladstone reckons he is now defamed. I welcome any action he brings against me. But we all know he won't. It's just bluster.

However, the case against him .....


You were ejected to prevent you repeating poisonous libel NOT for any other reason. Had you ventured a retraction of your libellous statement, events would never have gone this far. Even yet, you can contact me, should you change your mind.

The game is over, this time it is for real. I will not be dismissing this as I have in the past. Gather your evidence, you will need to supply proof of your allegation. I presume you do have proof? I doubt it since it did not happen. I have proof of how I found the document without recourse to illegal means, on a public Web server operated by Supanames (Fasthosts) on a domain registered to Anne Elizabeth Button. I refer of course to taxi-driver.co.uk and their public folder.


Poisonous libel?

You're having a laugh.

I gave you full opportunity to explain how you came by the link.

You failed to.

The evidence is damning. You pursue legal action. Do it, you stupid man.

Let the legal profession decide who is telling the truth.

Notwithstanding what happened, whatever "explanation" you now think you have. I gave you full opportunity to explain this at the outset. You chose not to, instead sprackling around trying to come up with an alternative.

You had no reason to know that the document even existed. It could not be accessed except by using the URL, which you accessed withing six hours of it being posted in my PM box. You say you found it by other means. Even so, those means were foul. You are bang to rights.

What compounds your stupidity that, is that notwithstanding all of this, you published a legal document to which you had no right of access. It is incredulous that you though the right to publish this in the first place. Publication of which could affect a case still in legal process. Be sure to tell your legal representatives this before we face each other in court.

You play fast and loose Alan Gladstone.

A fool and his site are easily parted.

Not, I suggest you do as I propose to do and make no further comment, keep if for the litigation.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:46 pm 
alan G wrote:
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In the true spirit of parochialism, it appears that I have been ejected from Alan Gladstone's www.fastblacks.com site in Edinburgh.

It would appear that the trade here believes that two cabbies alone are responsibile for bring the realism of quality controls and revised conditions of fitness to the trade in Edinburgh. No cognisance of the many interests who have been involved throughout the whole country, and that there is a tide of change sweeping the nation.

So, I've been barred. It appears that if you don't like the message, then it's better to just close your mind and refuse the right to speak to those with whom you disagree.

Doesn't this only prove that there is no right to free speech in our nation?

Finally. It appears that Mr Gladstone intends to seek legal redress because I publicly, on his site, called him a thief for going into my private message box, illegally using a link he found there to information being held in a non-public area of the TDO site, thereby publishing the information he found there through his own site. That this information was a legal document relating to case which is still pending only compounds his felony and reaffirms his stupidity.

It would appear that Mr Gladstone reckons he is now defamed. I welcome any action he brings against me. But we all know he won't. It's just bluster.

However, the case against him .....


You were ejected to prevent you repeating poisonous libel NOT for any other reason. Had you ventured a retraction of your libellous statement, events would never have gone this far. Even yet, you can contact me, should you change your mind.

The game is over, this time it is for real. I will not be dismissing this as I have in the past. Gather your evidence, you will need to supply proof of your allegation. I presume you do have proof? I doubt it since it did not happen. I have proof of how I found the document without recourse to illegal means, on a public Web server operated by Supanames (Fasthosts) on a domain registered to Anne Elizabeth Button. I refer of course to taxi-driver.co.uk and their public folder.


Poisonous libel?

You're having a laugh.

I gave you full opportunity to explain how you came by the link.

You failed to.

The evidence is damning. You pursue legal action. Do it, you stupid man.

Let the legal profession decide who is telling the truth.

Notwithstanding what happened, whatever "explanation" you now think you have. I gave you full opportunity to explain this at the outset. You chose not to, instead sprackling around trying to come up with an alternative.

You had no reason to know that the document even existed. It could not be accessed except by using the URL, which you accessed withing six hours of it being posted in my PM box. You say you found it by other means. Even so, those means were foul. You are bang to rights.

What compounds your stupidity that, is that notwithstanding all of this, you published a legal document to which you had no right of access. It is incredulous that you though the right to publish this in the first place. Publication of which could affect a case still in legal process. Be sure to tell your legal representatives this before we face each other in court.

You play fast and loose Alan Gladstone.

A fool and his site are easily parted.

Not, I suggest you do as I propose to do and make no further comment, keep if for the litigation.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:05 pm 
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greenbadgecabby wrote:
How the Faark do you know what the blokes like Sussex? He might give up 50% of his takings for cancer research? Help old people across Ped X's? Because someones got hold of a ropey old legal document from an internet site does'nt qualify them as public enemy number one. :lol:

Well I just happen to subscribe to the old fashioned view that if someone sends something to someone in a private message, then the person who peeps at, and then publishes, that information is not a nice person.

You may class them as 'salt of the earth', but on that we will just have to disagree.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:37 pm 
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alan G wrote:

The game is over, this time it is for real. I will not be dismissing this as I have in the past. Gather your evidence, you will need to supply proof of your allegation. I presume you do have proof? I doubt it since it did not happen. I have proof of how I found the document without recourse to illegal means, on a public Web server operated by Supanames (Fasthosts) on a domain registered to Anne Elizabeth Button. I refer of course to taxi-driver.co.uk and their public folder.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:44 pm 
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alan G wrote:
You just did!!!!

Well Mr Peeper, if you wish to live in your own little dream world, then far be it for me to wake you. Image

But one thing you will wake up to is the gradual death of your site. Without the likes of Mr Taylor on it, it will die a very slow death.

And it was all your fault. [-X

What a sensible person would have done (if a person who peeps at members PMs can be viewed as sensible) would have been to keep the info confidential.

But what happened was you couldn't, like a snitch you couldn't wait to tell the world of your findings. I wonder if you will ever have the balls to tell the truth? :-k

Who knows?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:20 pm 
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But one thing you will wake up to is the gradual death of your site. Without the likes of Mr Taylor on it, it will die a very slow death.

And it was all your fault. [-X

have to call him little bo peep.Image


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alan G wrote:
I have proof of how I found the document without recourse to illegal means, on a public Web server operated by Supanames (Fasthosts) on a domain registered to Anne Elizabeth Button.


So what's all this stuff in aid off, since everyone knows that anyway.

Even Nidge managed to find that out, and that was a couple of years ago at that.

I would be slightly more impressed if you told us how you found the private document rather than stuff that's public and anyone can find.

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I have proof of how I found the document without recourse to illegal means, on a public Web server operated by Supanames (Fasthosts) on a domain registered to Anne Elizabeth Button.


So what's all this stuff in aid off, since everyone knows that anyway.

Even Nidge managed to find that out, and that was a couple of years ago at that.

I would be slightly more impressed if you told us how you found the private document rather than stuff that's public and anyone can find.



I would like to know how little peeper Gladstone just happened to stumble over the doc and at the same time make the connection it was intended for Jim without having read Jim’s post.

What a prat!
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I would like to know how little peeper Gladstone just happened to stumble over the doc and at the same time make the connection it was intended for Jim without having read Jim’s post.

I would like to know how many members of his site have spent the last few days deleting any PMs they have sent. :D

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 Post subject: Whats all this then!?!
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:42 pm 
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I am about to start work as a taxi driver this week hopefully. You may have read threads from me in other sections.
I was looking over the past threads with interest and a certain amount of amusment.
I dont pretend to know anything about the situation north of the border or taxi driving in general for that matter, but what i have found over the past weeks, while researching the job locally, is that there is nearly always a taxi war going on between firms/controllers and even drivers on the same firm. In my 'manor' there is one particular guy who is (in)famous for making threats to drivers who do not work 'with' him. He has threatened violence, sent many complaints about other drivers to the local authority, etc etc. The past threads really reminded me of all this and it makes me laugh how such a potentially simple and worthwhile job can seem like "Taxi Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Prat"
All i can really say is that i am well looking foward to working in this line of work and will be as co-operative with the other firms and drivers as i can be. However, i will not tolerate any funny business like this as it was what i got out of a few jobs for. Just cant stand it.
On a positive note, got a mail today about a guy who has a airport run sharing site in my area and has invited me to join. Its good to know there are those who like to work together still about.
Good luck to those who are opressed. Such a quick jump on the 'legal action' bandwagon in my experience is the action of a large ego that knows they are wrong. Real men can swallow their pride and sort it themselves.


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"Such a quick jump on the 'legal action' bandwagon in my experience is the action of a large ego that knows they are wrong. Real men can swallow their pride and sort it themselves."

Not sure I agree with this jamesvolunteer. When there is a serious wrong to be righted, like someone deliberately taking private information and publishing it on the internet, perhaps legal redress is the only way to discourage it happening to someone else.

Anyway, no matter. Well done for joining the trade. I wish you well.

Keep your own counsel, keep your own interests in sight and enjoy.

I've always reckoned that the taxi trade is the closest I'll ever get to showbusiness. The great times I've entertaining passengers, and being entertained by them, makes it all worthwhile.

In the microcosm of the taxi, it's amazing how people drop their guard and really open up. The opportunity is there to see a side of humanity most never experience.

I've bee a travel guide, historian, economist, political commentator, agony uncle and social worker - and many other things as well.

There is a down side. I've been subjected to violence and fare dodgers. I now just laugh it off. There's nothing more funny than the site of two bum cheeks swinging from side to side as their owner's legs are pumping to carry them off. :lol:

It happens so infrequently, my advice is take the hit, put it to one side and get onto the next fare as quickly as possible.

So jamesvolunteer, welcome to the trade. Enjoy.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:35 am 
Paul Kerr, who already recognises he's too lazy or that nobody would ever support him leading the taxi trade in Edinburgh writes on the other site:

"Don't twist words - I said the document was in a public place, the legal definition of which is "a place to which the public have free and unrestricted access" That applies to supermarket car parks (for example, you can be charged with drunk driving in there as it's a "public place") and your website where an apparently confidential document was left in a "public place". If it wasn't a public place and was in fact private section of your website, then how did I and so many others read it. AND you still haven't explained why it was there in the first place - the private area argument is just a smokescreen.

NOW will you go back from whence you came with your own private little spat, after of course you explain why the document was in a public place."

This is what we're up against in Edinburgh. The quality of opposition is so poor, it's impossible to retrain the swamp.

This bozo can't even grasp the simple concept that the document was not in a public place. It was not accessible unless you had the key, which was the URL which was posted in my PM box.

It wasn't in a public place, it is not a smokescreen. Leastways to all sensible people, but not the mentally challenged like Paul Kerr.

Does anyone know if stupidity can be advanced as an argument to prove that someone is not a fit and proper person to hold a taxi driver's licence.

One other thing. Paul kerr denies being a taxi owner. I recall having a conversation where he told me he was. But, because of the area in which he lived, where parking was impossibl;e, he preferred to changeover at his driver's.

Either he was a liar then, or he is now.

Should this miscreant even be walking the streets?

Oh dear. No doubt I'll get another threat of legal action. :wink: :lol:


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jasbar wrote:
"Such a quick jump on the 'legal action' bandwagon in my experience is the action of a large ego that knows they are wrong. Real men can swallow their pride and sort it themselves."

Not sure I agree with this jamesvolunteer. When there is a serious wrong to be righted, like someone deliberately taking private information and publishing it on the internet, perhaps legal redress is the only way to discourage it happening to someone else.

Anyway, no matter. Well done for joining the trade. I wish you well.


Thanks Jasbar.
Maybe you are right there. I dont know any of the details so i will stick to your advice and watch my own self.
I'm sure i will enjoy this job, and will be sure to let you know of any incidents when ive got some under my belt.
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